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Old 03-31-2011, 12:57 PM   #121
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That's exactly what I said.

Amazon format IS mobi format just with a different extension .azm and slightly different drm.

Purchased mobi and library mobi use the the same drm as far as I know.

I don't know how 'recent' the change was but it been there since I've been buying amazon ebooks -- several years now.
The DRM for purchased Mobipocket is different from library Mobipocket DRM. One allows you to read for as long as you want or are able to due to the DRM and the other expires after 7, 14, or 21 days. So in that respect they are different. I'm just wondering if a program that handles the all-the-time DRM also will handle the time limited DRM without any special coding.
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Old 03-31-2011, 12:58 PM   #122
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And please respect DiapDealer's point.

Legal or not, ethical or not, most people will never be legally hassled for stripping DRM, but CREATORS OF DRM REMOVING SOFTWARE GET SUED REGULARLY!

I'd hate for any unwarranted heat to be brought down on a great free-ware project like Calibre! Aside from the risk of bad publicity, even a frivolous and merit-less legal issue could be a terrible drain for the Calibre team.

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(just a user, I don't speak for Kovid or anyone else on the Calibre team)
Calibre is not in trouble at all. Calibre has nothing to do with stripping DRM. Other people wrote the plug-ins for stripping DRM. Kovid is staying away from DRM stripping and thus, he and Calibre are free and clear.
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I've known lots of lawyers - I've lived with several. Not a single one of them would have done this. No (good) lawyer is going to give free advice on an Internet forum, especially about an issue with *no* court cases to back it up.
I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. Lawyers do give free advice on Internet forums. And they are good lawyers.
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:02 PM   #124
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Thats about as important to Kindle users as being able to drive a motorcycle is to Yeti.

Maybe the library patrons want to be able to use a Kindle. Is that what the discussion is about?
The discussion is that the Kindle is not not compatible with the eBooks used by Overdrive at libraries.

I know one can strip DRM and convert. But that's not the issue. The issue is that for most people, it's not compatible and the library in the article is not using the Kindle which would just confuse patrons.
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I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. Lawyers do give free advice on Internet forums. And they are good lawyers.
Does it count if I'm a great lawyer in my daydreams?
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I do know that time limited Adept DRM is different then all the time Adept DRM.
They're not different at all. The same exact algorithms are used--and the exact same tools that remove "all the time" Adept DRM will remove "time limited" Adept DRM as well. The "key" to unlock the encryption just stops working after a predetermined length of time with the library ebooks.
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:05 PM   #127
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there are none so blind as those that cannot see. this discussion took place on this very forum
I may very well have either missed it or forgotten about it. But that still doesn't answer my question. Is it legal to strip the DRM from library eBooks? That's different to stripping the DRM from purchased eBooks. So please stop side-stepping the question. This is the third time I've asked this.
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:07 PM   #128
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I don't know about "most" Kindle users, but both my husband and I actually took the lending thing into consideration when comparing the Kindle vs the Nook. The library feature wouldn't really do us any good (at this time, anyway) as our local library does not support e-books. We would have to move one county over to take advantage of the option.
But there are libraries in Florida that do support eBooks and because you live in Florida, you may very well be able to get library cards.

Now that you know it might be possible, when's the Kindle going back?
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I'm not a lawyer but I play one on MR.
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The discussion is that the Kindle is not not compatible with the eBooks used by Overdrive at libraries.
This does not matter.
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:15 PM   #132
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But there are libraries in Florida that do support eBooks and because you live in Florida, you may very well be able to get library cards.

Now that you know it might be possible, when's the Kindle going back?
You obviously didn't read my post. i am well aware what is available and where.
The answer to your question is: Its not. I am quite happy with my Kindle. If one day they get library access...guess what..I will be quite happy with my Kindle. If they choose never to get library access, I am quite happy with my Kindle. Should I decide, one day, that I must have library access on a machine, then I will buy an e-reader that supports it, and still be quite happy with my Kindle.

Its not much different then buying different console gaming devices (we have 3) in order to have access to different gaming titles.
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They're not different at all. The same exact algorithms are used--and the exact same tools that remove "all the time" Adept DRM will remove "time limited" Adept DRM as well. The "key" to unlock the encryption just stops working after a predetermined length of time with the library ebooks.

Pretty sure the same goes for mobipocket, yes?
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This does not matter.
Was that just random nihilism, or are you posting in this thread for some reason?
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Was that just random nihilism, or are you posting in this thread for some reason?
This does not matter. Nothing does.
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