I have mixed feelings about this one: No More Cursive Handwriting - Page 6

jenieliser · 03-30-2011, 11:54 PM

oh my, I thought this was just in certain areas, until tonight. I asked a thitd grader about her school, what she was learning. First, no cursive. Ok, it's sad but not earth shattering. Second, she's using a calculator in math! Third grade guys! A calculator!! Really? Ok, I do have a problem with that one. I'm sure it's mixed with jealousy, "hey! I couldn't use a calculator til high school!" But really, as far as problem solving goes, is that hindering? I'm not in the education feels so I'm trusting they've come up with something that will help them with their problem solving abilities other than just math... Maybe? I guess we'll see in about 20 years, eh?

wannabee · 03-31-2011, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ervserver

My gf recently filled out a job app that required it be written in cursive

I red bout a hand wrttn job app txd in sms shorthand.

kennyc · 03-31-2011, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortis

Look on the bright side, soon we won't need paper and pen so kids don't even need to learn how to write, then they won't have to read because the technology will make that obsolete, just like handwriting

It could happen....

In fact....

GeoffC · 03-31-2011, 07:02 AM

Look on another bright side, we won't run out of electricity to power all these nice PCs etc that we increasingly rely on .....

wyndslash · 03-31-2011, 09:54 AM

using a calculator in grade school is just lazy. unless they're already learning calculus or something. how can this engage the children's minds?

i'm sure nobody's concerned about a nationwide blackout

kennyc · 03-31-2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wyndslash

using a calculator in grade school is just lazy. unless they're already learning calculus or something. how can this engage the children's minds?

...

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/entertai...-of-relativity

Mortis · 03-31-2011, 10:10 AM

Ok, I'm not the only one that remembers having to "Show your work" and no calculators in class?

When my daughter started 6th grade one of the things on her school supply lists was a calculator, I have to admit being a little confused. I was told, when I demanded to know why a 6th grader needs a calculator, that the children need to be taught how to use the "Proper" tools. I really thought the "Proper tool" would be their mind? But I am sure I'm over reacting and they will always have a calculator handy for those difficult math problems: "If I leave city "A" on a train traveling at 100km/h how long will it take me to get to the drinking car?"

I have worked with some younger people, I am only talking about the younger people I have worked with, so this is not a generalization, that needed a calculator to figure out percentage! They couldn't do it long hand? Hell these youngsters couldn't split the cheque without a cell phone calculator, I mean really the final bill was $80/4 people, they needed a calculator to figure this out, but they could always figure out how many more pigs they needed in Farmville!

Why do I feel the urge to chase kids off my lawn all of a sudden?

GeoffC · 03-31-2011, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortis

Ok, I'm not the only one that remembers having to "Show your work" and no calculators in class?

When my daughter started 6th grade one of the things on her school supply lists was a calculator, I have to admit being a little confused. I was told, when I demanded to know why a 6th grader needs a calculator, that the children need to be taught how to use the "Proper" tools. I really thought the "Proper tool" would be their mind? But I am sure I'm over reacting and they will always have a calculator handy for those difficult math problems: "If I leave city "A" on a train traveling at 100km/h how long will it take me to get to the drinking car?"

I have worked with some younger people, I am only talking about the younger people I have worked with, so this is not a generalization, that needed a calculator to figure out percentage! They couldn't do it long hand? Hell these youngsters couldn't split the cheque without a cell phone calculator, I mean really the final bill was $80/4 people, they needed a calculator to figure this out, but they could always figure out how many more pigs they needed in Farmville!

Why do I feel the urge to chase kids off my lawn all of a sudden?

Maths exams here require the students to show their working.

Correct answer but no working fails, whilst working but wrong answer at least gives some marks.

Some kids at 15-16 do not know fractions ..... nor are they clear about what % means.

At least one has used a calculator to work out what 1 * 10 is .....

Mortis · 03-31-2011, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffC

Maths exams here require the students to show their working.

Correct answer but no working fails, whilst working but wrong answer at least gives some marks.

Some kids at 15-16 do not know fractions ..... nor are they clear about what % means.

At least one has used a calculator to work out what 1 * 10 is .....

And these are the future leaders of our planet. The sad thing is that we only have ourselves to blame.

Xanthe · 04-01-2011, 01:21 AM

My niece is going into parochial school for first grade next year because they still teach cursive handwriting. The public schools in her town no longer teach it, and her parents want her to learn it.

I think it is disgraceful that schools are dropping that from the core curriculum. If you no longer have the ability to read the past, how are you going to learn from it?

desertblues · 04-01-2011, 02:24 AM

I would like children to have a nice handwriting, so they can write their letters by hand. I still have some old letters from sweethearts. Such nice memories. It's not the same with emails; that's not romantic enough.

wyndslash · 04-01-2011, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by desertblues

I would like children to have a nice handwriting, so they can write their letters by hand. I still have some old letters from sweethearts. Such nice memories. It's not the same with emails; that's not romantic enough.

i love letters

i keep all the ones from my penpals

EowynCarter · 04-01-2011, 10:05 AM

Hang on. How can you Handwrite without cursive ?

GeoffC · 04-01-2011, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Hang on. How can you Handwrite without cursive ?

With your foot ...

Mortis · 04-01-2011, 11:33 AM

Or as the man with no arms, your mouth.

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03-30-2011, 11:54 PM	#76
jenieliser Groupie Posts: 165 Karma: 2136526 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tampa, FL Device: Kindle PW, Kobo Libra Color	oh my, I thought this was just in certain areas, until tonight. I asked a thitd grader about her school, what she was learning. First, no cursive. Ok, it's sad but not earth shattering. Second, she's using a calculator in math! Third grade guys! A calculator!! Really? Ok, I do have a problem with that one. I'm sure it's mixed with jealousy, "hey! I couldn't use a calculator til high school!" But really, as far as problem solving goes, is that hindering? I'm not in the education feels so I'm trusting they've come up with something that will help them with their problem solving abilities other than just math... Maybe? I guess we'll see in about 20 years, eh?

03-31-2011, 07:02 AM	#79
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Look on another bright side, we won't run out of electricity to power all these nice PCs etc that we increasingly rely on .....

03-31-2011, 09:54 AM	#80
wyndslash Wizard Posts: 2,951 Karma: 3000001 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3 wifi, Kindle Fire	using a calculator in grade school is just lazy. unless they're already learning calculus or something. how can this engage the children's minds? i'm sure nobody's concerned about a nationwide blackout

03-31-2011, 10:10 AM	#82
Mortis Canucklehead in Malaysia Posts: 1,633 Karma: 3127774 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Device: iPhone, Kindle	Ok, I'm not the only one that remembers having to "Show your work" and no calculators in class? When my daughter started 6th grade one of the things on her school supply lists was a calculator, I have to admit being a little confused. I was told, when I demanded to know why a 6th grader needs a calculator, that the children need to be taught how to use the "Proper" tools. I really thought the "Proper tool" would be their mind? But I am sure I'm over reacting and they will always have a calculator handy for those difficult math problems: "If I leave city "A" on a train traveling at 100km/h how long will it take me to get to the drinking car?" I have worked with some younger people, I am only talking about the younger people I have worked with, so this is not a generalization, that needed a calculator to figure out percentage! They couldn't do it long hand? Hell these youngsters couldn't split the cheque without a cell phone calculator, I mean really the final bill was $80/4 people, they needed a calculator to figure this out, but they could always figure out how many more pigs they needed in Farmville! Why do I feel the urge to chase kids off my lawn all of a sudden?

04-01-2011, 01:21 AM	#85
Xanthe Plan B Is Now In Force Posts: 1,894 Karma: 8086979 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Surebleak Device: Aluratek,Sony 350/T1,Pandigital,eBM 911,Nook HD/HD+,Fire HDX 7/8.9,PW2	My niece is going into parochial school for first grade next year because they still teach cursive handwriting. The public schools in her town no longer teach it, and her parents want her to learn it. I think it is disgraceful that schools are dropping that from the core curriculum. If you no longer have the ability to read the past, how are you going to learn from it?

04-01-2011, 02:24 AM	#86
desertblues Home for the moment Posts: 5,127 Karma: 27718936 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: travelling Device: various	I would like children to have a nice handwriting, so they can write their letters by hand. I still have some old letters from sweethearts. Such nice memories. It's not the same with emails; that's not romantic enough.

04-01-2011, 10:05 AM	#88
EowynCarter Wizard Posts: 4,337 Karma: 4000000 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Paris Device: Cybooks; Sony PRS-T1	Hang on. How can you Handwrite without cursive ?

04-01-2011, 11:33 AM	#90
Mortis Canucklehead in Malaysia Posts: 1,633 Karma: 3127774 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Device: iPhone, Kindle	Or as the man with no arms, your mouth.