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Old 03-26-2011, 08:15 AM   #586
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Yes I do. You just go back to Sony and download it in ePub. That's not a good analogy.
It wasn't an analogy, It was a question.

For you that works, for me, it doesn't; I bought a specific ebook, I want that ebook. If I wanted ePub, I would have purchased ePub.

I don't want to get into the license vs buy debate.
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Old 03-26-2011, 09:16 AM   #587
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Define where on MR. It's not a discussion I've seen, so probably the answer is "no".
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I'm pro-DRM removal (and even more pro-DRM-free content) and anti-DMCA, but that doesn't change the fact that the DMCA makes me a criminal every time I liberate an ebook I buy.
I've written about this many times, most recently here. Read, enjoy, and please be careful to note the caveats.

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Old 03-26-2011, 09:47 AM   #588
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It wasn't an analogy, It was a question.

For you that works, for me, it doesn't; I bought a specific ebook, I want that ebook. If I wanted ePub, I would have purchased ePub.

I don't want to get into the license vs buy debate.
Back when you bought that specific eBook, there was no ePub. So all you are doing now is being pedantic. Things change. Sony had to change or they would have eventually had to stop with eBooks.

The LRX from Sony was a huge mess. The base font size was too small and the margins HUGE. When you made the font size medium, you got huge gaps between the lines. Moving to ePub was the best thing Sony did.
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Old 03-26-2011, 10:42 AM   #589
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Unauthorised is the proper British spelling.
We spell Unauthorised the same way down under as well
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:10 AM   #590
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Well I don't think any of those are actually authorized.
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Back when you bought that specific eBook, there was no ePub. So all you are doing now is being pedantic. Things change. Sony had to change or they would have eventually had to stop with eBooks.

The LRX from Sony was a huge mess. The base font size was too small and the margins HUGE. When you made the font size medium, you got huge gaps between the lines. Moving to ePub was the best thing Sony did.
The real issue with the LRX/EPUB thing on Sony is that at least when they originally converted, there were books that they had in LRX but were unable to get in EPUB. So, unless they have since been able to get the rights to convert all those books to EPUB (likely but not guaranteed) the switch may well have cost people money and broken their access to some books.
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Old 03-26-2011, 02:42 PM   #592
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Back when you bought that specific eBook, there was no ePub. ...
What are talking about? You are stating things that you have no idea if they are true. I had a choice of buying LRX or ePub.
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...The LRX from Sony was a huge mess. The base font size was too small and the margins HUGE. When you made the font size medium, you got huge gaps between the lines. Moving to ePub was the best thing Sony did.
And ePub on my Sony is a mess. No headers, screwy page numbers, no full justification. That's not what I paid for. YMMV.
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Old 03-26-2011, 02:59 PM   #593
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Well I don't think any of those are actually authorized.
This is true. But authorized isn't authorised either.

Because unlike nervous also-ran languages, English doesn't have some central body telling us what is and isn't proper English. We just let the words compete in a free marketplace, and may the best word win.

And unlike certain other languages, English doesn't reject "loan words" from other languages. Loan words? English doesn't just borrow words, it steals them outright!
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What are talking about? You are stating things that you have no idea if they are true. I had a choice of buying LRX or ePub.

And ePub on my Sony is a mess. No headers, screwy page numbers, no full justification. That's not what I paid for. YMMV.
I may be wrong. . My apologies if I am.

My recollection is I could buy LRX from Sony, or ePub from other vendors. I may be wrong.
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Old 03-26-2011, 04:20 PM   #595
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I may be wrong. . My apologies if I am.

My recollection is I could buy LRX from Sony, or ePub from other vendors. I may be wrong.
Originally, Sony only sold LRX. For a while Sony had both. They were, or are, in the process of switching their entire selection to ePub; their new acquisitions are ePub only. New devices only read ePub, not BBEB/LRX. Some ebooks haven't been converted and won't be available for re-download until they finish converting them.
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And ePub on my Sony is a mess. No headers, screwy page numbers, no full justification. That's not what I paid for. YMMV.
Sony didn't pubished an update about that ? Bummer
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Social DRM for library books is a fail before it ever happens.
Why is it a fail?
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And unlike certain other languages, English doesn't reject "loan words" from other languages. Loan words? English doesn't just borrow words, it steals them outright!
Does that make us English speakers pirates then?

We need DRM on the spoken word!
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Originally, Sony only sold LRX. For a while Sony had both. They were, or are, in the process of switching their entire selection to ePub; their new acquisitions are ePub only. New devices only read ePub, not BBEB/LRX. Some ebooks haven't been converted and won't be available for re-download until they finish converting them.
New devices do indeed handle LRF. But they do not handle LRX.
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The real issue with the LRX/EPUB thing on Sony is that at least when they originally converted, there were books that they had in LRX but were unable to get in EPUB. So, unless they have since been able to get the rights to convert all those books to EPUB (likely but not guaranteed) the switch may well have cost people money and broken their access to some books.
Originally, not all of my LRX were converted. But they are all converted so all of my LRX is now ePub. Go back to your library and double check. I think they'll all have been sorted by now.
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