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Discussion: The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin
Hi All... wow... time flies. Let's talk about the man, the myth the... wait... that might be someone else.
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So I'm the first?
![]() My first comment concerns the scope of this “autobiography.” Anyone expecting a complete biography of Franklin will be disappointed. A more appropriate title might have been “How I Became the Man I Am,” as the book is pretty much limited to his youth and young manhood during which he becomes a successful printer. There is basically no mention of his years from the time of the American Revolution and on. That said I found the work very informative in what it reveals about Franklin as a man of his time. He reveals him self to be the prototype of the sort of man who formed the American Republic, a man of the Enlightenment who sees one of the primary purposes of a successful man to work to better society. The sort of Puritan ethic is also revealed in him in his proposal that he achieve moral perfection and that by making a list of the characters of the perfectly moral man and one by one achieving each item on the list. I will put my other comments in spoiler tags both for not revealing to much to those who have not yet read this and to keep this post at reasonable length. Spoiler:
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I first read Benjamin Franklin: An American Life by Walter Isaacson and now have completed the autobiography. It seems like both books talked about two different people. But Ben did not really become interesting until after his wife died and he moved to France. He really liked the ladies.
One thing for sure; both books showed him to be a free thinker. I wonder what he would do with the information access of the internet today? |
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As a printer and lover of truth, he certainly would have had a lot to say about the access we now have to books & information, and the developing ownership issues.
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Responding to Hamlet's not-so-gentle reproof in the April B.C. Nominations today!!....
I started G.K. Chesterton's Orthodoxy (another March nomination) before I started the book ultimately selected, so I'm only about a quarter of the way through but I'm liking it a lot. It's not something I would have ever read w/out a nudge...not sure why because biography/autobiography are two of my favorite catagories; maybe because you've heard about it since grade school and it's just sort of background noise. Reading these two books though I've been able to answer my own question about why I liked A Room With a View so much—why I like Churchill's histories. I'm impressed with a formal writing style! Cormac McCarthy's books have some of this formality. I am really behind in my reading this month. Too much in the news...Libya, Bahrain, Japan, Egypt...the additions to the crises list just seems to get longer every month. Plan on adding more when I finish the Autobiography, but it will be tough to top Hamlet's spiffy post! |
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![]() ![]() My guess is that he would have come done on the no copyright or very limited copyright side. I base this on his refusal to attempt to patent the “Franklin Stove” and other inventions he came up with, saying that (paraphrasing I'm sure) that he did it for the betterment of society. |
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Sorry, Hamlet, but about 2 pages in, I hated it and deleted it. The guy was an SOB to his son, so I was not a fan going into the selection. That is why I can not discuss it.
I'm looking forward to April. almost all of the nominees look interesting. Lots to discuss there. |
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Here is the most telling passage on religion that I found in the work, showing plainly that Franklin was, indeed, a Deist:
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His thirteen virtues (I suspect he allowed a broad interpretation of #12): Spoiler:
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Outside of the reputation as a ladies' man that has survived to this day, one of the reasons I feel Mr. Franklin allowed a broad interpretation of his moral rule #12 is from another of his own writings, "On Choosing a Mistress" (1745):
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>3. Because there is no hazard of Children, which irregularly produc'd may be attended with much Inconvenience.
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One aspect of Ben Franklin's life, only mentioned briefly once in the text of the autobiography, was the famous kite experiment. One biography of Franklin that I read years ago (and, forgive me, I've forgotten the title and author), speculated that one possible reason he didn't play up this this particular experiment while he seemed to relish relating others was shame. There was a hint in that book that perhaps Franklin was not holding the string, but rather, had it held by someone of a class who would not be missed were the experiment to prove fatal.
What is known is that in his 80s, Franklin freed his slaves and became an abolitionist. An attempt at atonement? Last edited by WT Sharpe; 03-23-2011 at 01:14 PM. Reason: Add last line. |
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Definitely he had a very broad view of virtue #12. Well evidenced that he thought his major failing in all 13 was #3. Spoiler:
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A basket? Oh, but of course paper bags had not yet been invented. ![]() |
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