Cutting Prices is the only way to stop piracy

[mr ploppy]

Originally Posted by Piper_

I might be missing something, but afaik, neither buying books outside one's geographic area nor stripping DRM off books one has purchased are considered "Piracy" anywhere I've seen...


If they have, then I do agree that it sounds like madness!

Circumvention of copy protection is actually a more serious crime than downloading pirate copies without any protection in some countries. No doubt that will change in due course though.

Aren't entertainment industry funded laws a great idea?

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by mr ploppy

Okay, fair enough assuming they are both released at the same time. But that still leaves ebooks with the 20% saving in distributor fee and the 10% saving in paper costs, plus (say) another 5% for warehousing and transportation.

So why are ebooks priced at or above the price of the hardback?

Yes why?

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by mr ploppy

Circumvention of copy protection is actually a more serious crime than downloading pirate copies without any protection in some countries. No doubt that will change in due course though.

Aren't entertainment industry funded laws a great idea?

Why yes all cororate-funded laws are GREAT ideas!!!

[Adriaan12452]

Originally Posted by queentess

While that is a clever misquotation, what I actually asked was:


Trying to understand why you consider ebooks to be different from "real" books.

With real I referred to the fysical book instead of a bunch of zero's and ones.

[perversity]

What baffles me is that people who pirate seem to think that the content they are stealing somehow belongs to the world and should be free.

[rogue_librarian]

Originally Posted by mr ploppy

So why are ebooks priced at or above the price of the hardback?

Isn't that obvious? Because they can.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by rogue_librarian

Isn't that obvious? Because they can.

All the traffic the market will bear....

[tompe]

Originally Posted by perversity

What baffles me is that people who pirate seem to think that the content they are stealing somehow belongs to the world and should be free.

Belong to? So who does the content in a published book belong to according to you?

And it still is not stealing but copyright infringement. Maybe that misunderstanding have caused your confusion about what belong to who.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by tompe

Belong to? So who does the content in a published book belong to according to you?

...

The creator of that information.

[tompe]

Originally Posted by kennyc

The creator of that information.

So if it does not belong to the buyer of the physical book then it is impossible to take the content from the creator. So there is no problem here. You cannot take the content.

[mr ploppy]

Originally Posted by rogue_librarian

Isn't that obvious? Because they can.

So why bother pretending that print, distribution and warehousing only account for 10% of an ebook's price? Customers who are gouged will only come back for more until they find an alternative.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by tompe

So if it does not belong to the buyer of the physical book then it is impossible to take the content from the creator. So there is no problem here. You cannot take the content.

Which is exactly the point you don't understand.

[HappyMartin]

Originally Posted by tompe

So if it does not belong to the buyer of the physical book then it is impossible to take the content from the creator. So there is no problem here. You cannot take the content.

I think it is old fashioned and a little unsophisticated to only consider theft to being applicable to physical goods. If that is what is meant here.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by HappyMartin

I think it is old fashioned and a little unsophisticated to only consider theft to being applicable to physical goods. If that is what is meant here.

Exactly.

[rogue_librarian]

Originally Posted by HappyMartin

I think it is old fashioned and a little unsophisticated to only consider theft to being applicable to physical goods.

Come again? I certainly don't consider accuracy in expression "unsophisticated". And, yes, "theft" is very clearly defined to only apply to tangible goods. Once you steal something the original owner no longer has it.

If we are talking about ebooks and the like it's "copyright violation". It's not my fault that it doesn't sound quite as catchy. (I have an idea, why don't we call it "mindrape"? You're making use of an author's "intellectual property" without his consent, after all.)