The best Bible for your Kindle - Page 23

Charlie Dog · 02-24-2011, 04:38 PM

It really annoys me the way they handled this and it certainly isn't your fault.

That being said, I really like the ESV Study Bible. I think its the best Study Bible out there when it comes to commentary. I have both the Hard Cover and the Kindle version. The Net Bible has more extensive notes, but they are much more translation oriented rather than theological explanations. The ESV Study Bible has been very helpful to me in my Bible Study class...........we are currently studying Hebrews which is a little more difficult for me than Paul's other epistles...........although the ESV points out that Paul may not have actually written it.

It amazes me the trouble that Big Shot publishers have pushing an update, but I guess its because they are more paranoid about their proprietary code, more so they they are concerned with customer service.

So you have used the "new" version and it does searches?

montalex · 02-24-2011, 04:47 PM

My Kindle can't read Aramaic!

osnova · 02-24-2011, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirmaru

I'm interested in buying that new ESV Study Bible as well but ONLY if and when Osnova announces here if his improvements are implemented on the Amazon site.

Well, if you have never bought it, then you shouldn't have a problem. If you purchase now, you will get an ESV with DVJ-2. This is what I did, and it works for me on my Kindle. But please note that I have nothing to do with Crossway. They just used my ideas on their own.

As to your other point. Yes, if you get the updated file from me through an email, Amazon will not recognize it as their file and will not allow all the features you mention. But I just don't know how to offer people updated files through Amazon.

Somebody told me months ago that what they did was to call Amazon and describe the situation. Amazon reversed the initial transaction and refunded the money and the person was able to buy the new updated file afresh. If you don't do it, Amazon will not let you buy you something that you have already purchased even if it is a new version of the file.

HarryT · 02-25-2011, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Dog

The ESV Study Bible has been very helpful to me in my Bible Study class...........we are currently studying Hebrews which is a little more difficult for me than Paul's other epistles...........although the ESV points out that Paul may not have actually written it.

There's no "maybe" about it; Hebrews is unquestionably not one of Paul's epistles. I don't know of any reputable source which would claim that it is!

osnova · 03-02-2011, 01:23 AM

Wow. I stumbled upon this review on youtube. It showcases OSNOVA publications. I have been thinking about making videos for OSNOVA publications for some time now but haven't had time.

osnova · 03-14-2011, 02:58 AM

[Per advice, deleted the videos until I do new ones]

sirmaru · 03-14-2011, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osnova

I have started posting very basic tutorials and reviews on YouTube. Here are the first one and the second. By the way, some of the tutorials show a lot of personal information about me (the settings page) and the Kindle (the name, phone number, the serial and MAC numbers). I think it is not a big deal. Do you agree or should I be worried and delete the video before it's too late?

Delete it. Its too dangerous. There is no reason that information should be public.

osnova · 03-14-2011, 10:22 AM

After sleeping on it, I guess you are right. Plus, I was told I ramble on and on without focus. I'll have to redo the videos.

speedlever · 03-14-2011, 10:36 AM

I agree. Just do a remake after you change the info on your K3 to get rid of any personal info.

A couple of notes for you. The 2nd video shows a couple of things that can be done different ways:
1) for the ALT Q-P numbers, you can either press and hold ALT to enter more than one number at a time, or you can press ALT and release, and then press Q-P to get a single number (for instance if trying to do this single-handedly.)
2) Using DVJ-2, there is no need to press the down arrow to select the top choice. Simply hit the enter key (center of the 5-way) to navigate directly to the top choice on the list.

Great tutorial videos. Looking forward to more!

Note to Amazon: if you're going to leave off the number keys but provide an alternative way to get them (like the K3), please print the numbers in a different color over the appropriate letters to make it easier to reference. Maybe rename the ALT key to FUNC and color that yellow and put yellow numbers over the appropriate letters like handheld calculators.

BTW, does the ALT key serve any other function on the K3?

FF2 · 03-14-2011, 10:55 AM

Alt-G "fixes" ghosting.

Alt-Z "refreshes" the k3 if you have added new photos to the picture folder.

Alt-shift-g does a screen capture

Those are the ones off the top of my head. There may be others.

speedlever · 03-14-2011, 11:13 AM

Thanks FF2. I'd forgotten some of those. I've never noticed any ghosting.

sirmaru · 03-14-2011, 09:20 PM

Go here to get the latest ESV with DVJ from Crossway for ZERO dollars for a few days from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Bible-English-...0152201&sr=1-2

I'm not sure if this is from Osnova but one can do a DVJ with spaces instead of dots. Plus, the price is right for the next few days: ZERO DOLLARS.

speedlever · 03-14-2011, 09:55 PM

Thanks for the heads-up. I bought that Crossway version in December, but haven't figured out how to make DVJ work on it. It may be the abbreviations. I've tried JN/John 3:16 with various combinations of spaces and periods with no luck.

sirmaru · 03-14-2011, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedlever

Thanks for the heads-up. I bought that Crossway version in December, but haven't figured out how to make DVJ work on it. It may be the abbreviations. I've tried JN/John 3:16 with various combinations of spaces and periods with no luck.

You bought the wrong ESV. This one was just loaded into Amazon and uses an Index key with abbreviations and spaces. It was only published Feb 9, 2011.

The price is zero. The other had a real price. I don't understand why Amazon is giving this book away free.

It has a chapter describing how to use the DVJ. I don't remember a chapter like that in any of the other Osnova bibles. Also, as one starts typing the abbreviations, all the index at that level appears.

s1mp13m4n · 03-14-2011, 10:47 PM

This is very nice book. To answer an above question, I like the Message Bible, NIV, and NLT the best. Keep us posted on what you are doing, this is rather nice.

03-14-2011, 02:58 AM	#336
osnova Kindler of the Flame Posts: 582 Karma: 646016 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: US of A Device: K DX,3,KT,KP,KF, KFHD; Nook C, PRS600, iPad, Xoom, N900, N810, Zaurus	[Per advice, deleted the videos until I do new ones] Last edited by osnova; 03-14-2011 at 10:33 AM.

03-14-2011, 10:22 AM	#338
osnova Kindler of the Flame Posts: 582 Karma: 646016 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: US of A Device: K DX,3,KT,KP,KF, KFHD; Nook C, PRS600, iPad, Xoom, N900, N810, Zaurus	After sleeping on it, I guess you are right. Plus, I was told I ramble on and on without focus. I'll have to redo the videos. Last edited by osnova; 03-14-2011 at 10:34 AM.

03-14-2011, 09:20 PM	#342
sirmaru Wizard Posts: 2,426 Karma: 6561538 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: Kindle PW 2013, HDX 2013, Galaxy S5 2014	Go here to get the latest ESV with DVJ from Crossway for ZERO dollars for a few days from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Bible-English-...0152201&sr=1-2 I'm not sure if this is from Osnova but one can do a DVJ with spaces instead of dots. Plus, the price is right for the next few days: ZERO DOLLARS. Last edited by sirmaru; 03-14-2011 at 09:24 PM.

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02-24-2011, 04:38 PM	#331
Charlie Dog Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: kindle	It really annoys me the way they handled this and it certainly isn't your fault. That being said, I really like the ESV Study Bible. I think its the best Study Bible out there when it comes to commentary. I have both the Hard Cover and the Kindle version. The Net Bible has more extensive notes, but they are much more translation oriented rather than theological explanations. The ESV Study Bible has been very helpful to me in my Bible Study class...........we are currently studying Hebrews which is a little more difficult for me than Paul's other epistles...........although the ESV points out that Paul may not have actually written it. It amazes me the trouble that Big Shot publishers have pushing an update, but I guess its because they are more paranoid about their proprietary code, more so they they are concerned with customer service. So you have used the "new" version and it does searches?

02-24-2011, 04:47 PM	#332
montalex Fanatic Posts: 556 Karma: 1283268 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: KindleDX,Kindle 4, Kindle Keyboard 3G	My Kindle can't read Aramaic!

03-02-2011, 01:23 AM	#335
osnova Kindler of the Flame Posts: 582 Karma: 646016 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: US of A Device: K DX,3,KT,KP,KF, KFHD; Nook C, PRS600, iPad, Xoom, N900, N810, Zaurus	Wow. I stumbled upon this review on youtube. It showcases OSNOVA publications. I have been thinking about making videos for OSNOVA publications for some time now but haven't had time.

03-14-2011, 10:36 AM	#339
speedlever Fanatic Posts: 592 Karma: 138200 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NC, USA Device: PW2014, PW2012, iPad Pro	I agree. Just do a remake after you change the info on your K3 to get rid of any personal info. A couple of notes for you. The 2nd video shows a couple of things that can be done different ways: 1) for the ALT Q-P numbers, you can either press and hold ALT to enter more than one number at a time, or you can press ALT and release, and then press Q-P to get a single number (for instance if trying to do this single-handedly.) 2) Using DVJ-2, there is no need to press the down arrow to select the top choice. Simply hit the enter key (center of the 5-way) to navigate directly to the top choice on the list. Great tutorial videos. Looking forward to more! Note to Amazon: if you're going to leave off the number keys but provide an alternative way to get them (like the K3), please print the numbers in a different color over the appropriate letters to make it easier to reference. Maybe rename the ALT key to FUNC and color that yellow and put yellow numbers over the appropriate letters like handheld calculators. BTW, does the ALT key serve any other function on the K3?

03-14-2011, 10:55 AM	#340
FF2 Wizard Posts: 1,105 Karma: 1025784 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: WiFi Kindle3	Alt-G "fixes" ghosting. Alt-Z "refreshes" the k3 if you have added new photos to the picture folder. Alt-shift-g does a screen capture Those are the ones off the top of my head. There may be others.

03-14-2011, 11:13 AM	#341
speedlever Fanatic Posts: 592 Karma: 138200 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NC, USA Device: PW2014, PW2012, iPad Pro	Thanks FF2. I'd forgotten some of those. I've never noticed any ghosting.

03-14-2011, 09:55 PM	#343
speedlever Fanatic Posts: 592 Karma: 138200 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NC, USA Device: PW2014, PW2012, iPad Pro	Thanks for the heads-up. I bought that Crossway version in December, but haven't figured out how to make DVJ work on it. It may be the abbreviations. I've tried JN/John 3:16 with various combinations of spaces and periods with no luck.

03-14-2011, 10:47 PM	#345
s1mp13m4n Zealot Posts: 127 Karma: 1278 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Virginia, USA Device: Kindle Oasis	This is very nice book. To answer an above question, I like the Message Bible, NIV, and NLT the best. Keep us posted on what you are doing, this is rather nice.