iPad iPad2: same price as old and now thinner and more powerful

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by SolRaven

The only place that I can see that TV being a good idea is if you have it hanging on a wall where it will sit flatter than a picture frame. I have this one sitting on a mid century modern dresser. The TV looks just as good off as when it's on. I wish I could buy that gorgeous stand separately and use it with my other TV's. However, I would not recommend it for anyone w/ kids, unless they mounted it flat onto a wall.

That's one pricey TV. My only TV is a 7" WS LCD (that's right, a whopping seven inches). If I were to ever get a larger one, I'd definitely hang it on the wall.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Got one of those. It just does not lend itself to heavy duty reading, at least for my old eyes. But I do a lot of short form reading on my micro.

I just want a Galaxy Tab, done by Apple. The Tab feels cheap, and cost more than I think it should, and besides, I want to stay in the Apple ecosystem.

I have an iPod touch 4 and the screen is just too small to read on. Not enough real estate resulting in page turns every 5 nano seconds. Drives me crazy.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by injapan

yes, I tend to agree, a great piece of equipment though, nice
but, yes, its a big iTouch

I feel the same way about my iPod touch; it's too thin. Will be glad to see some Android competition for this market.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by wannabee

Tubie, We get it mate. It's not the tablet for you. Do you think it might be the tablet for some of the rest of us?

Sure, but questions were asked and answers provided.

[boswd]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

I have a 7" Android tablet (Nook Color) and I just love the size. I wouldn't want anything larger. I'm sure a 7" iPad would sell very well.

7inch is THE PERFECT ereader screen size. Tablet hmm I go back and forth, I thin overall I like the 10inch screen size form factor. but for reading I'm with you 7inch is the perfect size.

[injapan]

Yes, a 7" ipad would be great! The iPad now is great but a little big for me, as the whole thing is about it being portable

[kennyc]

But Steve said NEVER!

[HansTWN]

Originally Posted by kennyc

But Steve said NEVER!

He always says never right before they announce it. My money is on an Ipad 3 with a 7 inch retina screen

[Graham]

But they'd be Dead On Arrival.

OMG! Zombie iPads!



Graham

[SolRaven]

Originally Posted by boswd

7inch is THE PERFECT ereader screen size. Tablet hmm I go back and forth, I thin overall I like the 10inch screen size form factor. but for reading I'm with you 7inch is the perfect size.

I think 7" in good for a basic reader, but for most textbooks, I think 12" - 14" would be better. I just ordered an iPad while still waiting for Kno to ship (if they ever ship). This way I can at least try out the 9.7" screen and see if it'll work for me.

Originally Posted by injapan

Yes, a 7" ipad would be great! The iPad now is great but a little big for me, as the whole thing is about it being portable

I suppose it's what you plan to port. For me, it's textbooks. Considering I have textbooks that are over 6 lbs., weight is a huge consideration. Anything half that size and under that can carry "all" of my books would be wonderful!

You might look into the 7" HTC Flyer that's coming out. It would be my ideal tablet if it was 12-14" which I hope they'll bring out within a year.

[HansTWN]

For a 12.1" screen your best bet is the Asus EP 121. A core i5 windows 7 tablet with full Wacom support. Wonderful in every respect except battery life -- which for text books should be around 4-4.5 hours. You could, of course, get one of those external extension batteries.

The only problem is that they have greatly underestimated demand but cannot make enough of them and there always is a waiting list at Amazon and at the MS Store. This is a real powerful computer, so this unit is more expensive than a tablet, though.

The Kno has been canceled, I read somewhere. They company quit the hardware business after shipping just a few hundred units and now they are just selling licenses for textbooks to other companies.

[SolRaven]

Originally Posted by HansTWN

For a 12.1" screen your best bet is the Asus EP 121. A core i5 windows 7 tablet with full Wacom support. Wonderful in every respect except battery life -- which for text books should be around 4-4.5 hours. You could, of course, get one of those external extension batteries.

The only problem is that they have greatly underestimated demand but cannot make enough of them and there always is a waiting list at Amazon and at the MS Store. This is a real powerful computer, so this unit is more expensive than a tablet, though.

The Kno has been canceled, I read somewhere. They company quit the hardware business after shipping just a few hundred units and now they are just selling licenses for textbooks to other companies.

The Asus is almost there, but for the price that Asus is asking, there are a few things that I would change. First and foremost would be battery life. Realistic battery life is 3 hours, possibly pushed to 3.5, but that's way too short for a tablet, IMHO. I'd also prefer the N-trig with palm rejection instead of Wacom.

I have a friend who also has a preorder in for the Kno who bought the EP121 and is either selling it or returning it. Knowing that I wouldn't have to wait, and could just buy it from him, I seriously thought about it, but felt like I would be settling. If I'm going to settle, I may as well get an iPad for half the price, which is the tablet, that my friend told me, he uses the most. So... I just ordered an ipad.

As for the Kno, who knows what's going on w/ them. I last heard that they were selling their hardware division, which was one week after they called and said that shipment was delayed an additional 60 days. I've been waiting for my Kno since Xmas. If it ships, I have 30 days to decide if I want to keep it and sell the iPad. If it doesn't, at least I'm not sitting around waiting for it.

BTW, they didn't ship any units, they just "said" that they did. I haven't found a single pre-order on the net that got their unit. And one of their former employees said that he wasn't able to keep his, so... I doubt there are any in the wild right now.

And they sent me a shirt! Ha! Nice rag, that will be!

[HansTWN]

Originally Posted by SolRaven

The Asus is almost there, but for the price that Asus is asking, there are a few things that I would change. First and foremost would be battery life. Realistic battery life is 3 hours, possibly pushed to 3.5, but that's way too short for a tablet, IMHO. I'd also prefer the N-trig with palm rejection instead of Wacom.

I have a friend who also has a preorder in for the Kno who bought the EP121 and is either selling it or returning it. Knowing that I wouldn't have to wait, and could just buy it from him, I seriously thought about it, but felt like I would be settling. If I'm going to settle, I may as well get an iPad for half the price, which is the tablet, that my friend told me, he uses the most. So... I just ordered an ipad.

As for the Kno, who knows what's going on w/ them. I last heard that they were selling their hardware division, which was one week after they called and said that shipment was delayed an additional 60 days. I've been waiting for my Kno since Xmas. If it ships, I have 30 days to decide if I want to keep it and sell the iPad. If it doesn't, at least I'm not sitting around waiting for it.

BTW, they didn't ship any units, they just "said" that they did. I haven't found a single pre-order on the net that got their unit. And one of their former employees said that he wasn't able to keep his, so... I doubt there are any in the wild right now.

And they sent me a shirt! Ha! Nice rag, that will be!

Your friend can always sell the EP121 to me (if it is the 4GB RAM/64GB SSD version). The 3 hours battery life should be for video streaming over WiFi, not for regular work. The price is really not expensive for a computer with these specs --- you can't compare it to an iPad or an Android tablet, you must compare it to a MacBook. The question is, do you need the extra power.

As far as the "palm problem", an easy solution is to turn off the touch screen when you are using the pen.

It is "settling" to some extent. The new SandyBridge processors should almost double the battery life, then it would be the no compromise solution. If I had an EP 121 I would take an external battery with me.

[SolRaven]

Originally Posted by HansTWN

Your friend can always sell the EP121 to me (if it is the 4GB RAM/64GB SSD version). The 3 hours battery life should be for video streaming over WiFi, not for regular work. The price is really not expensive for a computer with these specs --- you can't compare it to an iPad or an Android tablet, you must compare it to a MacBook. The question is, do you need the extra power.

As far as the "palm problem", an easy solution is to turn off the touch screen when you are using the pen.

It is "settling" to some extent....

My "settling" is someone else's "perfect". I want it just for textbooks and note taking. I suppose I could turn the Wacom off, but knowing that I almost had/have a Kno with palm rejection makes me want to hold out.

I think he does have the 64GB. If your seriously interested, send me a PM with your email and I'll get it to him.

[wannabee]

Originally Posted by SolRaven

And they sent me a shirt! Ha! Nice rag, that will be!

Whatever you do, don't use it as a rag. It will be a nice keepsake (of your great times with the Kno folk ) - SORRY - But seriously, get a photo of you in it. Add some comment in the image. "Does anyone Kno the Shipping Date" and email it to them.
Or think of some other witty remarks. There's gotta be heaps with a name like Kno.