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Of course, ALL booksellers use DRM. This is all a nice way of sidestepping the fact that those booksellers all prevent Apple (or indeed books from other booksellers) being sold (or often even) read on their devices. The "open Amazon"
![]() Apple allows books from ALL those sellers on its devices. They all want to play on Apple's lawn. Apparently they don't want Apple on THEIR lawns. I'm beginning to think that you guys are in AMAZON'S pay. Two can play in that silly game, after all. |
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No, the makers of those devices didn't allow any other booksellers on their closed devices at all. I fail to see how that is any better. Apple hasn't (and probably doesn't want) to force anyone off its devices, and hasn't pulled any stunt that anyone else is aware of. But thanks for a classic example of misinformation. |
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You do not have to explain here that DRM is bad. It is well known. Other companies' unethical practices however do not make it more acceptable that Apple does even more harm to customers. This topic is about Apple's stunts and not other companies'.
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It would save a lot of tangential nitpicking if we allow that when most people say "all booksellers" around here, they mean Amazon, B&N, Kobo, and Sony. And sometimes Apple.
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OK!
A lot of people buy from Carina/Baen/Samhain/O'Reilly/Smashwords/etc. One really nice thing about e-books is that you have more choices of independent publisher, which may publish books in your particular niche. You can even load their epubs into your iBooks, because they are DRM-free. |
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Buying a gadget that only supports certain formats is one thing, not selling to people who don't own your device is another. Amazon got a lot of flak for that before they opened up the Kindle store to people who own other devices. Quote:
For iBooks to become a major player in the eBook market they will need to open the store to people who do not own iOS devices - just as Amazon opened the Kindle store to people who do not own Kindles. |
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All this dickering would end if there were no DRM.
As it is, my iTouch 4G can display any of 'them' if I install the appropriate reading program. My Sony 650 wont; I have to do fiddly things to get rid of DRM before I can install everything I own on my Sony -- I dont want to bother. DRM is bad, I dont like it. DRM is bad for we book readers, unless -- we are willing to stick with one book seller as most Kindle owners seem to be. Never mind the IT types who delight in "rooting" Nook colors or "Russianize" their (our) Sonys. And, I suppose, similar efforts to overcome the designed-in limits of the Kindle. What I would like and would be willing to pay double for is an excellent machine (Nook color with the Apple "retina" screen) that could display anything I wanted to read without all the effort of overcoming the effects of the civil war between publishing companies. They, from my emotional point of view, want to make us all sharecroppers if not slaves to their greed. I am willing to pay for written content. I've made my living providing such content and feel that I should get paid for my efforts. DRM does provide some protection and, if I had to 'give' my writing away, well -- I probably wouldnt do much of it. And, arrogance aside, the reader would be the loser. An intermediate solution would be a uniform, common DRM, one that Apple, Amazon, Sony, etc. could use. Then we could all use the DRM'ed documents on all our readers. I could read "East of Eden" on my Sony 650 in the sunlight and on my iTouch 4G the rest of the time. In order to do that now, I had to learn how to strip DRM and how to use the ins-and-outs of the excellent program "calibre." Library books are easy to deal with, once one has learned the details of the Dewey Decimal System: you dont need a special pair of glasses to read the books. I am looking forward to the time when authors and publishers get their fair share and we readers can enjoy what they have offered us. A uniform DRM would go far toward this. Never mind those who steal things from others; there arent that many of them and there would be less if we "teach your children well." Joe |
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