Amazon, B&N, Kobo: iOS aps to be pulled in June

[stonetools]

Originally Posted by kennyc

WTF? You don't even have a clue do you? I think it's time for ignore for you.

Ok on reflection, that may be a bit much

Let's just say they are well positioned and could do a lot better. They would have to really improve their IBook store, though.

[snipenekkid]

Originally Posted by kennyc

WTF? You don't even have a clue do you? I think it's time for ignore for you.

been there done that with that ID days ago. Too much rhetoric and like you I come here for the fun not for everything to be a forced-march debate.

[snipenekkid]

Originally Posted by Lemurion

Apple's ability to dominate the ebook market is going to be severely curtailed by their refusal to sell to anyone who doesn't own one of their devices.

If we assume there are 160 Million iOS devices out there - and further assume that each iOS device is owned by a unique individual - and that all such devices are still in use - we still end up with slightly over 6.7 Billion people who do NOT own an iOS device.

It's not going to happen.

This is without considering the fact that since most people don't read, most iOS device owners probably don't read - while a majority of Kindle, Nook, and other dedicated reader device owners do.

well, well, how RUDE!!

How dare you use logic and rational thought in this discussion. hahahaha!! nice call! But when some are still using sticks and rocks as tools then, you know you are speaking to denizens from The Land of the Lost.

[spellbanisher]

Originally Posted by snipenekkid

been there done that with that ID days ago. Too much rhetoric and like you I come here for the fun not for everything to be a forced-march debate.

[Lemurion]

Originally Posted by snipenekkid

well, well, how RUDE!!

How dare you use logic and rational thought in this discussion. hahahaha!! nice call! But when some are still using sticks and rocks as tools then, you know you are speaking to denizens from The Land of the Lost.

That could be a problem - my Sleestak is very rusty.

[wyndslash]

did this just go off-topic?

[Worldwalker]

Good point about tablets versus dedicated ebook readers.

If I were to buy a tablet (and I'm looking forward to seeing what comes out this year) I wouldn't be doing much, if any, ebook reading on it. I've tried out text on iPads, and I like my e-ink screen a lot better. I'd only use the tablet as a reader when for some reason I couldn't have my Sony 505 with me. And yet I'm a voracious reader. So we can't really assume that any significant number of iPad purchasers are reading any given number of ebooks on them if someone like me -- already an avid ebook reader -- doesn't plan to do so.

[snipenekkid]

I liked reading on the Touch 4 and it's super cool "Retina" display but really was not blow away, in fact kinda let down when I borrowed a friends iPad for an hour. It was a, well, just average as far as LCD's go. As in nothing I haven't seen before. So while I can certainly see maybe owning a Touch 4 again, I don't see me wanting an iPad given the other options in devices of that size or larger.

What I really hope is the Asus EP121 is not a mediocre display for the $1.1 Mega-buck list price. If the panel is just "...eh" I won't likely give it a 2nd thought either at that price anyway.

[Graham]

Originally Posted by stonetools

Ok on reflection, that may be a bit much

Let's just say they are well positioned and could do a lot better. They would have to really improve their IBook store, though.

Well positioned currently, yes. But are they improving their position or degrading it? The market is still growing, so sales are going up, but this discussion is about relative position.

Over the last quarter of 2010 Android tablets took 22% of of the tablet market from Apple, and that's before true Android tablets were released. This year we'd expect to see that swing continue.

Over the last quarter of 2010 Android phones were outselling iPhones globally by about 2:1.

I would also suggest that the smaller form factor of many Android tablets is more suitable for reading ebooks, as they are lighter and more portable, and as yet Apple doesn't have a competitor in that 6" to 7" market.

Also people who buy dedicated reading devices are surely likely to buy a lot more books than people who buy a multi-purpose tablet or phone?

I can see the iBookstore being a player in the ebook market, but I can't see it becoming dominant.

Graham

[wyndslash]

@graham: same here. at least for me, apple still has to work out the geo restrictions with the publishers, because if they take out the other reading apps, ibookstore is as useful to me as garbage.

[Crowl]

Originally Posted by Worldwalker

And that's exactly the problem:

You think there are "anti-Apple folks" who dislike Apple because of something unrelated to whether or not Apple sells devices that they want. You think that people who don't buy Apple devices do so because of some baseless dislike for the company that makes them.

The most idiotic part of his use of the anti-apple label to try and dodge a lot of the perfectly valid complaints is that it ignores just how many of the people objecting to these changes are actual ipad owners which would seem to contradict them being anti-apple by most rational measures.

[Crowl]

Originally Posted by stonetools

Let's just say they are well positioned and could do a lot better. They would have to really improve their IBook store, though.

Improving their bookstore will be a relatively meaningless move unless you make the inaccurate assumption that ios devices will eventually outnumber the total of dedicated readers, pcs, macs, android tablets and phones, blackberry tablets and phone, webos phones and tablets, windows phones etc. because the crucial strength of the kindle or the nook is the accessibility of the content across multiple platforms whereas the ibookstore locks you into just ios device without even a desktop client.

[Lemurion]

Originally Posted by Crowl

Improving their bookstore will be a relatively meaningless move unless you make the inaccurate assumption that ios devices will eventually outnumber the total of dedicated readers, pcs, macs, android tablets and phones, blackberry tablets and phone, webos phones and tablets, windows phones etc. because the crucial strength of the kindle or the nook is the accessibility of the content across multiple platforms whereas the ibookstore locks you into just ios device without even a desktop client.

Yup, the minimum 6.7 Billion people without iDevices say hi.

[kennyc]

Hi!


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[HansTWN]

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