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Old 03-01-2011, 10:11 PM   #1711
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:47 PM   #1712
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Do I detect a hint of William McGonagle?
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:28 PM   #1713
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Afraid not. I think the original composer might be rolling in his grave at that comment though! Remember, this is the only translation I could find.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:46 PM   #1714
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Afraid not. I think the original composer might be rolling in his grave at that comment though! Remember, this is the only translation I could find.
Yes, I did wonder if I were offering a terrible insult to some poet It was the jerky rhythm that made me wonder about WM. Translating poetry must be super-hard, though.

Was the original in Greek? Or Latin?
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:56 PM   #1715
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Yes, I did wonder if I were offering a terrible insult to some poet It was the jerky rhythm that made me wonder about WM. Translating poetry must be super-hard, though.

Was the original in Greek? Or Latin?
Nope, not in Greek or Latin.

There's a snippet of story behind this starling and the poem's composer that I'll put up if people need more hints than the couple I've dropped already.
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:46 AM   #1716
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It's past my bedtime, so I'll leave you with another clue or two before I hit the hay.

The composer of the poem bought the starling because of a fragment of tune he heard it whistle. He wrote the tune fragment in his expense book along with the note "Das war schon!" (That was beautiful!) The tune fragment can still be heard today (though not sung by a starling) depending on your taste in music.
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Old 03-02-2011, 02:50 AM   #1717
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:05 AM   #1718
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:05 AM   #1719
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Old 03-02-2011, 11:48 AM   #1720
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Old 03-02-2011, 02:07 PM   #1721
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I'm pretty sure this was a question on University Challenge (UK) just last week. Is it Mozart?
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Old 03-02-2011, 02:18 PM   #1722
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It is! Interesting coincidence, what's University Challenge?

Mozart bought the starling in 1784 when he heard it singing a snippet of what was probably a folk tune. He had used that same tune in the third movement of a piano concerto he had finished a couple months prior.

When the starling died three years later he held a funeral at which he read the poem by the side of the starling's grave (I would have thought Mozart to be a better poet, but maybe it's not so bad in the original German).

You're up, Orlok.
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Old 03-02-2011, 02:22 PM   #1723
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It is! Interesting coincidence, what's University Challenge?

You're up, Orlok.
University Challenge is a quiz show in the UK - all the teams are from top Universities, and I'm lucky if I can answer 4 or 5 questions in the whole show.

Back in a mo with a question - have to run my eldest daughter to Youth Theatre...(Dad's Taxi).
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Old 03-02-2011, 02:40 PM   #1724
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What does it mean if, on a war statue of a mounted soldier, the horse's front legs are both in the air?
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Old 03-02-2011, 02:44 PM   #1725
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That's a nice question, Natasha! And I'm sure it was a better poem in German.

A while ago I was learning a new (to me) piano piece, playing the same section over and over. When I next went outside, one of our native songbirds, a tui, was trilling away, and I realised it was singing the opening three bars over and over! It had a good ear.

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