CNET predicts dedicated ereaders are doomed technology

[ApK]

Originally Posted by boswd

just because the kindle runs commericials [. . . ] doesn't make it the best.

Correct. It's features, value, and quality do.

and it was the only ereader you heard of when you bought it,

"You?" As in me? Try not to make your campaign of lies and misinformation too personal, as it then becomes pathetically transparent, rather just amusingly so, as it usually is.

Maybe you need a wider audience than this forum if you hope to delude anyone other than yourself. With places like Best Buy offering active Nooks and Kindles side by side for pre-purchase comparison, the nook fails too easily for your propaganda here to be effective.

But as you say this is getting slightly off topic.

[boswd]

Originally Posted by ApK

Correct. It's features, value, and quality do.



"You?" As in me? Try not to make your campaign of lies and misinformation too personal, as it then becomes pathetically transparent, rather just amusingly so, as it usually is.

Maybe you need a wider audience than this forum if you hope to delude anyone other than yourself. With places like Best Buy offering active Nooks and Kindles side by side for pre-purchase comparison, the nook fails too easily for your propaganda here to be effective.

But as you say this is getting slightly off topic.

Whatever! just keep following the rest of the sheep

[ApK]

Oh, you protest too much...you list nooks and droids, but we all know you secretly meet with a Kindle in seedy e-motel rooms when your nook thinks you're away on business.
(You should have been more careful if you didn't want people to know...Kindles can link directly to twitter accounts, you know....)

[boswd]

Originally Posted by ApK

Oh, you protest too much...you list nooks and droids, but we all know you secretly meet with a Kindle in seedy e-motel rooms when your nook thinks you're away on business.

Ok that's actually pretty funny

seeing how this got a little out of hand real fast I was originally referring to eink and it's web browsing capabilities, and this I mean all, nook, kindle Sony, they really are anything but awesome. Truely nothing more than that.

But don't think you're kindle didn't notice you checking out at the nook when she was showing just a little bit of color

[ApK]

Oh, well, if you're going to get all on-topic about it...
I agree, of course. I would not choose an eink device as browser primarily. (unless I REALLY only ever wanted to read a lot of text email and wiki articles out of range of any wifi, in which case the FREE 3g of the Kindle OR the Nook can be a pretty compelling choice. FREE compensates for a lot...)
But, as I've said, I do see display technology developing to the point where we'll have something with the best features of eink and back-lit lcd in one. Combine it with the right form factor and price, and the distinction of 'dedicated reader' or 'general computing tablet' will be moot.

[elcreative]

Not so... I for one require an eReader that I can slip in a jacket pocket... current Sony etc forms are ideal whereas I want around 10" from a tablet so even if everything combines, it won't meet my needs as I have two sets of requirements that are not convergent...

Originally Posted by ApK

Oh, well, if you're going to get all on-topic about it...
I agree, of course. I would not choose an eink device as browser primarily. (unless I REALLY only ever wanted to read a lot of text email and wiki articles out of range of any wifi, in which case the FREE 3g of the Kindle OR the Nook can be a pretty compelling choice. FREE compensates for a lot...)
But, as I've said, I do see display technology developing to the point where we'll have something with the best features of eink and back-lit lcd in one. Combine it with the right form factor and price, and the distinction of 'dedicated reader' or 'general computing tablet' will be moot.

[ApK]

And you think your divergent requirement is representative of the broad market?

In any case, even today, some people buy small readers or tablets, and some people buy big readers or tablets. No reason there still won't be size choices among the future devices, so you could buy two of them.

[gmw]

Indeed hasn't anyone else seen/read science fiction with foldable screens? When reading a novel I fold it into a convenient one hand size, when reading a newspaper I unfold it out to A3 if that's what I want. One of the other possibilities is that applications that we are used to seeing on 10" screens may not continue that way - we already see this on phones. Requirements that seem divergent now need not remain so in the future.

[FF2]

Originally Posted by boswd

web browsing capabilities, and this I mean all, nook, kindle Sony, they really are anything but awesome.

Actually, a friend thinks the kindle is awesome - he might think that of other ereaders that have browsers - awesome in that he can browse the web and not have to pay a monthly fee. If you think about it - that is pretty awesome these days.

[ApK]

Yes, free is awesome, which was pretty much my point, but boswd's point was, I think, that compared to other portable browsing devices like a netbook or an iPad or other tablet, the browser experience on an eink reader is less than awe inspiring.
I mean, what would your friend think of the browser on the Kindle if he had to pay iPad-like data rates to use it?

[FF2]

I specifically suggested he consider a netbook or tablet or even smartphone (he and his wife loved my Blackberry on a 3 week trip to the Domomites and our Desert Southwest) but wanted no part of any additional monthly fees.

I drop in and out of this thread. But in another thread I suggested convergence was not all it was cracked up to be. I don't want a tablet in place of a phone, too big to carry on hikes and bike rides. I don't want a small-screen phone when I browse the web extensively. I don't want a heavy, short-battery life ipad-like device when reading. Obviously technology will change and I'll see what it brings. But for the moment, separate devices seem to be MY answer to what _I_ need.

[Belle2Be]

I actually really like the Kindle web browser. It works faster than my hubby's Blackberry, and it's much easier too (not to mention I don't pay 30 bucks a month for the service). It also is never all glitchy like my NC is. However my NC isn't rooted, so that might fix that problem, I don't know.
Anyway, I would consider the Kindles web browser awesome in comparison to others in its league

[elcreative]

No, never made that claim but equally never claimed my ideas were the whole market... of course, the people I come across with eReaders and tablets are also all individuals and... all like a pocket portable eReader and a 10" tablet but that's only the people I come across... which also includes all the customers of an eReader retailer... but definitely not really part of the market unlike your far wider knowledge and in depth research...

Originally Posted by ApK

And you think your divergent requirement is representative of the broad market?

In any case, even today, some people buy small readers or tablets, and some people buy big readers or tablets. No reason there still won't be size choices among the future devices, so you could buy two of them.

[ApK]

Don't be an ass. I didn't say you said it, I asked if you thought it was so. We're talking about predictions of technology adoption in the wide world, and I'd think the millions of people who seem be running ereader apps on their large tablets, and the millions who are buying readers that don't fit comfortably in a pocket might inform a prediction a bit more than a few specific individual preferences. It's one think to bring your preference up in discussion, it's another to say "not so" and then get defensive about it.

[elcreative]

You use a Kindle... a few individual specific preferences??? Kindles are claiming millions of sales on their own, let alone all the other eReaders...

Originally Posted by ApK

Don't be an ass. I didn't say you said it, I asked if you thought it was so. We're talking about predictions of technology adoption in the wide world, and I'd think the millions of people who seem be running ereader apps on their large tablets, and the millions who are buying readers that don't fit comfortably in a pocket might inform a prediction a bit more than a few specific individual preferences. It's one think to bring your preference up in discussion, it's another to say "not so" and then get defensive about it.