How to add video or audio on ebook - Page 2

DaleDe · 01-29-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Freeshadow

even worse IMHO - how do you want them to learn reading actually if they got it ALL done?
no motivation to mind about the funny glyphs - just push the triangle button

Depends on the age of the child. 2 and 3 year olds aren't too good at reading glyphs. Book reading needs to start early, with a parents help of course.

Dale

JasonPaulClaire · 01-29-2011, 12:36 PM

See your points but what about books that deal with crafts. I'm trying to make ebooks with content for a publisher dealing with self help, sugar crafts, meditation, and other really practical things. Imagination is great but does not show a decorated cake as the author would like. Photos are fine but video is great for the follow along

Freeshadow · 01-29-2011, 09:28 PM

ok, so let it be a instructory DVD or something - but please not a book.
We k n o w what happened when the web changed from hypertext to all this "blinky flashy soundy" I have kind of frightening feeling that the so called enhancement will develop into the same nuissances.

like "if you like this action - order the foobar trilogy by this author" yadda-yadda banners between the chapters

JasonPaulClaire · 01-30-2011, 10:29 AM

Thanks for that Freeshadow. It doesn't help me to embed video and produce the results I need but have a great day and I really do take all your points.

Does anyone else have any insights into how you combine video into epub books for the iphone/pod/pad

Many thanks for all of your comments and help in advance
Jason

theducks · 01-30-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Freeshadow

ok, so let it be a instructory DVD or something - but please not a book.
We k n o w what happened when the web changed from hypertext to all this "blinky flashy soundy" I have kind of frightening feeling that the so called enhancement will develop into the same nuissances.

like "if you like this action - order the foobar trilogy by this author" yadda-yadda banners between the chapters

You have my vote

Books have printed words and static images (always hated those pop-up books

as a child. I would rather read a horse story.)
Audiobooks have their place (and format. "But I can't see the words in my Audio book" Dpo we hear a hugh and cry that authors can't display letters in Audio books :^) )
The OP should use Flash ( Oh! Jobs in his wisdom outlawed Flash

)

pholy · 01-30-2011, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pholy

I recommend that you read through Liz Castro's blog and get her book on epub which you will find there. She has been trying to work with iBooks for some time now, and shares what she discovers.

Do check Liz Castro's blog and her book. It's mostly about the trials and tribulations of creating iBooks. The book is well worth the $20.

Freeshadow · 01-30-2011, 09:22 PM

as theducks already pointed out
ebooks readers in general don't do motion

so if (as you pointed out) said motion is crucial (and not only an extra) for your content why make it an epub at all? epub should be effectively useable on epub capable devices
as also already pointed out it even isn't part of the specs so you don't even want a genuine epub
I'm somehow sad that the only book existing about it actually encourages bloathing and polluting the format.

if you only intend to serve your dish on idevices, why not making it an app?

By the way - I read very interesting and instructive boooks on both topics you mentioned: crafts and meditation both without videoclips embedded (even no thumb-cinema animations in the page corners.

I wish apple would announce their own ipub format for ibooks and let people who want to suffer their ignorance of fonts and love of blinky flashy actually do it instead of bloathing around inside of a format meant for books i.e. for reading (yeah,
that lost and forgotten skill you know - there's actually a short story by Asimov just about that)

a book is a book not a presentation - it seems to be the same weirdnes now as this "make a powerpoint out of that we ar all too dumb to read"

JasonPaulClaire · 01-31-2011, 01:59 PM

Thank you all for your thought and points. Lots of food for thought. I think that whilst apple have not released an format but use ePub I still need to go down this root. So hopefully some one will know how to embed video. I could make an app but still need to keep the flexibility of a book. If anyone has further info I would be grateful to hear how the embedding is done. Thanks in advance, Jason

JasonPaulClaire · 02-01-2011, 05:56 AM

Thanks Pholy, I'll check her site out ASAP

JasonPaulClaire · 02-10-2011, 03:20 AM

Hi Pholy, Checked out the web page and now am able to generate OCF books that work on the ipad. Thanks for your link and help.

Best wishes
Jason

JasonPaulClaire · 02-10-2011, 04:24 AM

Hi Paulfiera. checkout the following

http://www.pigsgourdsandwikis.com/20...s-on-ipad.html

I just made a simple webpage, ran this through IE and FIREFOX to see if the video would show. Neither showed the video (well on my system anyways). Ran it through SAFARI and the video played. So I knew I had got the code right. I recommend using SAFARI for testing the code.

Then used CALIBRE to condense to an EPUB (produced and OCF) I uploaded the single OCF to my ipod touch and it worked fine (for some reason it would not play OGG file formats, guess it likes MP4 etc instead.

The following was my html file.

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
video here
<break>
<video src="aa.m4v" NOTE will try MP4 next and post result
controls="true"
width="320"
height="240"
autoplay="FALSE">
</video>
</html>

You can then jazz this up however you like. I hope this helps you and anyone else looking for video in epub.

Best wishes Jason

wannabee · 02-10-2011, 08:09 AM

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I wish apple would announce their own ipub format for ibooks and let people who want to suffer their ignorance of fonts and love of blinky flashy actually do it instead of bloathing around inside of a format meant for books i.e. for reading (yeah,

They did http://www.pigsgourdsandwikis.com/20...51052178615606

Quote:

a book is a book not a presentation - it seems to be the same weirdnes now as this "make a powerpoint out of that we ar all too dumb to read"

We've started to print books out of electrons and sparks instead of ink and paper.
I take your point as L. Frank Baum's Wizard of OZ which was wonderfully illustrated for it's time still required imagination.
Video in instructional books will be a godsend for the technically challenged like me. I welcome them.

JasonPaulClaire · 02-15-2011, 03:54 AM

Hi Wannabee, your link doesn't work. Could you post again

Thanks
Jason

wannabee · 02-15-2011, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonPaulClaire

Hi Wannabee, your link doesn't work. Could you post again

Thanks
Jason

http://www.pigsgourdsandwikis.com/20...nd-iphone.html
I hope this link works for you. Though it's Apple's own format for fixed pages for iBooks not other e-readers or even iPad apps.
This format along with previous successful inclusion of video and audio content is the start to what you are trying to do. It's just that no one's actually doing much like this at present and some don't see a need for it.

Freeshadow · 02-15-2011, 02:05 PM

while I'm willing to admit that in certain cases (books abouts crafts and arts as example) an animated illustration might be extremely more helpful than a "still" one
(altough I doubt if the quality 'd remain on small displays) I fear a quality loss for the written content if more and more 'll be shifted towards graphical presentation. (esp. for novels)

01-30-2011, 09:22 PM	#22
Freeshadow temp. out of service Posts: 2,815 Karma: 24285242 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Duisburg (DE) Device: PB 623	as theducks already pointed out ebooks readers in general don't do motion so if (as you pointed out) said motion is crucial (and not only an extra) for your content why make it an epub at all? epub should be effectively useable on epub capable devices as also already pointed out it even isn't part of the specs so you don't even want a genuine epub I'm somehow sad that the only book existing about it actually encourages bloathing and polluting the format. if you only intend to serve your dish on idevices, why not making it an app? By the way - I read very interesting and instructive boooks on both topics you mentioned: crafts and meditation both without videoclips embedded (even no thumb-cinema animations in the page corners. I wish apple would announce their own ipub format for ibooks and let people who want to suffer their ignorance of fonts and love of blinky flashy actually do it instead of bloathing around inside of a format meant for books i.e. for reading (yeah, that lost and forgotten skill you know - there's actually a short story by Asimov just about that) a book is a book not a presentation - it seems to be the same weirdnes now as this "make a powerpoint out of that we ar all too dumb to read" Last edited by Freeshadow; 01-30-2011 at 09:32 PM. Reason: last sentence added

02-10-2011, 04:24 AM	#26
JasonPaulClaire Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 310 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: none	Video in epub/ocf for ipod/pad Hi Paulfiera. checkout the following http://www.pigsgourdsandwikis.com/20...s-on-ipad.html I just made a simple webpage, ran this through IE and FIREFOX to see if the video would show. Neither showed the video (well on my system anyways). Ran it through SAFARI and the video played. So I knew I had got the code right. I recommend using SAFARI for testing the code. Then used CALIBRE to condense to an EPUB (produced and OCF) I uploaded the single OCF to my ipod touch and it worked fine (for some reason it would not play OGG file formats, guess it likes MP4 etc instead. The following was my html file. <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> video here <break> <video src="aa.m4v" NOTE will try MP4 next and post result controls="true" width="320" height="240" autoplay="FALSE"> </video> </html> You can then jazz this up however you like. I hope this helps you and anyone else looking for video in epub. Best wishes Jason

01-29-2011, 12:36 PM	#17
JasonPaulClaire Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 310 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: none	See your points but what about books that deal with crafts. I'm trying to make ebooks with content for a publisher dealing with self help, sugar crafts, meditation, and other really practical things. Imagination is great but does not show a decorated cake as the author would like. Photos are fine but video is great for the follow along

01-29-2011, 09:28 PM	#18
Freeshadow temp. out of service Posts: 2,815 Karma: 24285242 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Duisburg (DE) Device: PB 623	ok, so let it be a instructory DVD or something - but please not a book. We k n o w what happened when the web changed from hypertext to all this "blinky flashy soundy" I have kind of frightening feeling that the so called enhancement will develop into the same nuissances. like "if you like this action - order the foobar trilogy by this author" yadda-yadda banners between the chapters

01-30-2011, 10:29 AM	#19
JasonPaulClaire Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 310 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: none	Thanks for that Freeshadow. It doesn't help me to embed video and produce the results I need but have a great day and I really do take all your points. Does anyone else have any insights into how you combine video into epub books for the iphone/pod/pad Many thanks for all of your comments and help in advance Jason

01-31-2011, 01:59 PM	#23
JasonPaulClaire Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 310 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: none	Thank you all for your thought and points. Lots of food for thought. I think that whilst apple have not released an format but use ePub I still need to go down this root. So hopefully some one will know how to embed video. I could make an app but still need to keep the flexibility of a book. If anyone has further info I would be grateful to hear how the embedding is done. Thanks in advance, Jason

02-01-2011, 05:56 AM	#24
JasonPaulClaire Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 310 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: none	Thanks Pholy, I'll check her site out ASAP

02-10-2011, 03:20 AM	#25
JasonPaulClaire Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 310 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: none	Hi Pholy, Checked out the web page and now am able to generate OCF books that work on the ipad. Thanks for your link and help. Best wishes Jason

02-15-2011, 03:54 AM	#28
JasonPaulClaire Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 310 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: none	Hi Wannabee, your link doesn't work. Could you post again Thanks Jason

02-15-2011, 02:05 PM	#30
Freeshadow temp. out of service Posts: 2,815 Karma: 24285242 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Duisburg (DE) Device: PB 623	while I'm willing to admit that in certain cases (books abouts crafts and arts as example) an animated illustration might be extremely more helpful than a "still" one (altough I doubt if the quality 'd remain on small displays) I fear a quality loss for the written content if more and more 'll be shifted towards graphical presentation. (esp. for novels)