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Old 02-12-2011, 01:48 PM   #31
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Are you sure that y'all are not projecting some of your own biases onto your feelings about coffee shops? I have often asked strangers with laptops if i may share their tiny table while waving my scone and iPad, and the assent is always gracious. You exchange a smile, quick comment on the weather and coffee, and both dosappear back into cyberworld.
Which is fine if you are alone. But if you are meeting someone and you both want to sit down and have a drink together, there is nowhere to sit.

I am all for free wifi and enjoying the news on my iPad when I am going there by myself, but to me that is different from people camping out all day on those tables. If you need office space, you should rent an office I think coffee shop managers maybe need to get more aggressive about imposing time limits on the tables (all the mall food courts do this) or something. If the limit is an hour, enjoy the drink and free wifi for an hour, and then leave so someone else can sit there
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Doesn't anyone like McDonald's coffee? It's cheaper, there's free WiFi and plenty of seating.
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Which is fine if you are alone. But if you are meeting someone and you both want to sit down and have a drink together, there is nowhere to sit.

I am all for free wifi and enjoying the news on my iPad when I am going there by myself, but to me that is different from people camping out all day on those tables. If you need office space, you should rent an office I think coffee shop managers maybe need to get more aggressive about imposing time limits on the tables (all the mall food courts do this) or something. If the limit is an hour, enjoy the drink and free wifi for an hour, and then leave so someone else can sit there
There have been a lot of coffee threads lately. Someone needs to arrange a meetup at a coffee shop. Its been a long time since we all got together.
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McDonald's AND coffee in the same sentence... nah, contradiction in terms...


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There have been a lot of coffee threads lately. Someone needs to arrange a meetup at a coffee shop. Its been a long time since we all got together.
How about Oslo?
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Doesn't anyone like McDonald's coffee? It's cheaper, there's free WiFi and plenty of seating.
I love McD's coffee - the real stuff and not the fancy stuff.
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How about Oslo?
How about Miami?
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How about Miami?
Too hot, too much sun.
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Precisely!
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Agreed! The smug, self satisfaction on the faces of, well everyone in those places is appalling.



What's so special about them?
I guess if you got a chip on your shoulder you could say the same thing about pick-up truck drivers(who don't use them for work), smugly filling up their 50 gallon tanks.
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Precisely!
Figured

How about Seattle on a cold, drizzly winter day along the waterfront sipping a hot cup of clam chowder?
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Agreed! The smug, self satisfaction on the faces of, well everyone in those places is appalling.

While I don't agree with the attitude, I guess I sort of understand the faith in their divinely appointed 'specialness' in a young stock trader or lawyer eaning a half million+ dollars a year, I DON'T understand the same atitude in the staff in those places. They are STILL just waiters eaning minimum wage with no benefits.

What's so special about them?
Because they get to be near 'us' of course. And isn't it benefit enough that I let them touch my Centurion card?

And as far as the "smug, self satisfaction on the faces of, well everyone..." those are just masks we all wear to keep out the dumb, the poor, and the dirty.
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Figured

How about Seattle on a cold, drizzly winter day along the waterfront sipping a hot cup of clam chowder?
Winter? That could describe just about anytime between ... I dunno ... October and June?

I very rarely patronize coffee shops - I'd rather read with a beer instead. Better class of people, too (at least here).
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I knew Starbucks was big, but didn't realize just how big. They have almost 17,000 stores in 50 countries, nearly $11 billion in revenue, almost $1 billion in income, and about 137,000 employees.

Someone obviously likes the stuff.
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I knew Starbucks was big, but didn't realize just how big. They have almost 17,000 stores in 50 countries, nearly $11 billion in revenue, almost $1 billion in income, and about 137,000 employees.

Someone obviously likes the stuff.
And this is after closing stores and cutting back staff.
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