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Old 02-05-2011, 09:51 AM   #421
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There are a lot of "romance" novels on the darknet. It's an interesting contrast to the Sci-fi, fantasy, mystery, and almost all other books that would make it onto a top-100 list of a newspaper/magazine in any given week.
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:33 AM   #422
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Agreed. In fact I once found a perfect pdf of a book at least 1 month before it was even released in hardback. Naturally, I deleted it and waited for the hardback to come out so I could pay $32.95 for it instead.
In a similar vein, I downloaded and read the "pre-release" version of the final Harry Potter before it hit the store shelves. I had already pre-ordered a copy from Amazon, however.

The wrinkle is that I had pre-ordered it as a Christmas present for my mother. I'm not sure, however, I can see a difference between that and just reading the pbook before wrapping it up; either way works out to 1 sale, 2 readers.

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Old 02-05-2011, 10:43 AM   #423
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So are you saying I might have to resign myself to not finding anything by Barbara Pym???
Just doing a quick search I found:

Excellent Women
Quartet in Autumn
A Glass of Blessings
Less Than Angels
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:53 AM   #424
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Just doing a quick search I found:

Excellent Women
Quartet in Autumn
A Glass of Blessings
Less Than Angels
Well, then obviously I'm looking in the wrong places!

ETA: Never mind. I hadn't gone looking for a while. Maybe Jane and Prudence will pop up soon as well!
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:59 AM   #425
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Strangely, and disappointingly, Barbara Pym seems to fall between two stools - not a "classic" and not contemporary enough to be the top of anyone's scanning list. Unless someone knows better...

Iris Murdoch on the other hand seems to be well served.
It took me about 20 seconds to find "Excellent Women" in epub format. Many pirated books I stumble over in the internet are clearly written for female readers. Therefore, the target group for pirated books is clearly different than for the usual pirated software etc.

Anyway, some people here seem to have very strong views on pirating. I'm not saying that pirating is justified; however, given the atrocities that happen every day I am surprised that people can get all worked up just because someone who is living on the other side of the world says that he is downloading pirated books as he can't get or afford them legally.
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:00 AM   #426
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It took me about 20 seconds to find "Excellent Women" in epub format. Many pirated books I stumble over on the net are clearly written for female readers. Therefore the target group for pirated books is clearly different than for the usual pirated software etc.

Anyway, some people here seem to have very strong views on pirating. I'm not saying that pirating is justified; however, given the the atrocities that happen every day I am surprised that people can get all worked up just because someone who is living on the other side of the world says that he is downloading pirated books as he can't get or afford them legally.
Not looking in the right (or wrong) places obviously.
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:04 AM   #427
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There are a lot of "romance" novels on the darknet. It's an interesting contrast to the Sci-fi, fantasy, mystery, and almost all other books that would make it onto a top-100 list of a newspaper/magazine in any given week.
It might be because romance novels seem to be the genre in which the books more quickly go OOP (out of print). You can often find the current books by an author, but their back catalog is usually only available via the used book route, if at that. Most of those books were only issued in paperback format, with its inherent fragility. And many romance authors, while not writing a specifically named "series", nonetheless set their stories in a particular location, or have a character or two from a previous novel reappear in a later book. A prime example of that are the Regency writers who create their layers of aristocracy and social arbiters. So a reader who enjoys the world created wants to read more stories set within it, but cannot find those books for sale.

Romance readers also have a slightly different mindset from those of other genres. I'm not saying it's a persecution complex, but I would bet that most older readers of romances have heard the phrase, "why are you wasting your time reading that trash?" more than once in their lives. So a sisterhood of sorts has developed among those who read that genre - it's our guilty secret and when we find others who share our interest, it's almost like we give each other a secret handshake. So making romance books available to other readers of the genre is just sharing books with other people who love the same thing you do. The whole issue of copyright, authors' rights, and publishers' rights is not even a blip on the radar.
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:15 AM   #428
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Not looking in the right (or wrong) places obviously.
Thanks, but I only wanted to point out that I come across many of these books, not that I am complaining about a too romantic list offered by the relevant sites.
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:27 AM   #429
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It took me about 20 seconds to find "Excellent Women" in epub format.
Wow! Immediately after reading this I plugged "Barbara Pym" "Excellent Women" epub into Google, and what pops up at the very top of the list but your message. And it was posted all of 15 minutes ago.

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Wow! Immediately after reading this I plugged "Barbara Pym" "Excellent Women" epub into Google, and what pops up at the very top of the list but your message. And it was posted all of 15 minutes ago.

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It might be because romance novels seem to be the genre in which the books more quickly go OOP (out of print).
I'd not considered that reasoning, but I it does make sense. I think that's one reason the SF/Fantasy genre is also so developed. All the OOP books that have been lovingly scanned/typed/edited etc. stretching back to the turn of the century - so many of them collectibles now priced out of the hands of people who just want to read, not monetize.
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There are a lot of "romance" novels on the darknet. It's an interesting contrast to the Sci-fi, fantasy, mystery, and almost all other books that would make it onto a top-100 list of a newspaper/magazine in any given week.
I don't read romance books. I wouldn't know if they are out there or not because I never searched for any. I just did individual searches by title or author. There was no shortage of any genre.
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