Need to buy a soly PDF book reader! - Page 3

Noah98 · 02-02-2011, 11:51 AM

I would suggest looking into either of these if academic use and PDF rendering is important:

The Entourage Edge (comes in pocket, or big screen version. Sold through bestbuy.com and other online retailers)

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75406

or

The Notion Ink Adam (Pixel Qi screen version)

http://www.notionink.com/features.php

I believe that both are listed at $500

physics · 02-02-2011, 12:05 PM

Hi-

I'm a physics grad student, so I'm also reading pdfs with lots of math equations. Overall, the kindle dx doesn't do so terrible on showing the math equations- although if there's a letter beta in the text it screws that up (I've been in touch with their tech support over this.)

Part of it depends on whether you're looking at image pdfs or text pdfs. Image pdfs can be slow to load and slow to turn pages, but again, I find it usable. I've heard that the pocketbook 902/903 is slower, but don't actually know firsthand. Text pdf's (like journal papers) are pretty snappy.

The downside is that the kindle doesn't support links- or even a linked table of contents- so navigating in large documents can be hard. You can put bookmarks, but those only tell you the page number (in the pdf), so you're stuck wondering if the bookmark on page 207 is the start of chapter 6 or chapter 7. For text pdfs, search also works, but it can be pretty slow.

Hope this helps!

jocampo · 02-02-2011, 12:14 PM

I would be cautious with the Notion Ink Adam, at least for following months. The few people that received their orders already, have complained a lot about the screen, operating system and even how some app works on it. And this have been posted on different and several portals, so I don't think is an isolated case.

Anyway, just dropping my 2 cents, the Adam is a expensive device and not even shipped from USA, so people should be aware of those kind of issues.

boswd · 02-02-2011, 12:24 PM

I would say with the Motorola Xoom release looming large this month, that would be something I would put on my 'check it out" list.

Noah98 · 02-02-2011, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocampo

I would be cautious with the Notion Ink Adam, at least for following months. The few people that received their orders already, have complained a lot about the screen, operating system and even how some app works on it. And this have been posted on different and several portals, so I don't think is an isolated case.

Anyway, just dropping my 2 cents, the Adam is a expensive device and not even shipped from USA, so people should be aware of those kind of issues.

I agree. I would see how the devices fares when it is professionally reviewed and ships fully, before even thinking about ordering one.

I think the problem here is that the op doesn't want an lcd, but wants the best possible pdf rendering with a large screen. For example, I wouldn't normally recommend the Entourage Edge to general book readers or tablet enthusiasts, but it does make sense for academic purposes.

And the other device, the Adam, solves the lcd screen issue with the Pixel Qi display, and offers a tablet interface that shoud make pdf viewing, annotating, etc. better. However, as jocampo pointed out, quality control is still a big question mark.

It's tough when the criteria are this limiting, but I understand that sometimes we have specific needs.

jian1 · 02-02-2011, 02:29 PM

The more I read about the replies the harder it becomes to decide.

Anyways, I have land my decision over PocketBook 902 and the current price listed on ebay is USD$340, good deal?

jocampo · 02-02-2011, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jian1

The more I read about the replies the harder it becomes to decide.

Anyways, I have land my decision over PocketBook 902 and the current price listed on ebay is USD$340, good deal?

You mean, the more you read, the more you learn from the whole bunch of educated folks here?

Just take the pros and cons, check your budget and buy one. There is no perfect ereader you just need to give priority to what you expect or want and you will be more than happy with it.

Dulin's Books · 02-02-2011, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jian1

The more I read about the replies the harder it becomes to decide.

Anyways, I have land my decision over PocketBook 902 and the current price listed on ebay is USD$340, good deal?

is that shipped?where are you located?

PocketBook USA · 02-02-2011, 10:26 PM

On the PocketBook 902 the annotations is done in Notes and uses the 4-way key to highlight the selection.

jian1 · 02-03-2011, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dulin's Books

is that shipped?where are you located?

the shipping is $14 something.

Dulin's Books · 02-03-2011, 04:21 PM

seems high

boswd · 02-03-2011, 04:32 PM

This is also an interesting product geared towards students and teachers

http://www.kno.com/waitlist-landing

jian1 · 02-03-2011, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dulin's Books

seems high

Show me a link that has lower sales price, thanx.

jian1 · 02-03-2011, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boswd

This is also an interesting product geared towards students and teachers

http://www.kno.com/waitlist-landing

It has LCD display with which I can not tolerate.

v1k1ng1001 · 02-04-2011, 12:42 AM

My PB 602 is pretty nice so I think you'll like the 902. My guess is that you'd want the pocketbook 903 with the touchscreen for annotations? Is that available yet?

The nice thing about the PBs is that you can expand the memory to 32gb with micro sd cards which is nice because .pdf files take up a lot of space. I filled up 16gb in no time.

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02-02-2011, 11:51 AM	#31
Noah98 Eccentric Posts: 510 Karma: 342150 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Florida Device: The nook, ipad 3, Kindle Fire HD (8.9), Kindle Paperwhite	I would suggest looking into either of these if academic use and PDF rendering is important: The Entourage Edge (comes in pocket, or big screen version. Sold through bestbuy.com and other online retailers) https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75406 or The Notion Ink Adam (Pixel Qi screen version) http://www.notionink.com/features.php I believe that both are listed at $500

02-02-2011, 12:05 PM	#32
physics Enthusiast Posts: 41 Karma: 729 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle DX	Hi- I'm a physics grad student, so I'm also reading pdfs with lots of math equations. Overall, the kindle dx doesn't do so terrible on showing the math equations- although if there's a letter beta in the text it screws that up (I've been in touch with their tech support over this.) Part of it depends on whether you're looking at image pdfs or text pdfs. Image pdfs can be slow to load and slow to turn pages, but again, I find it usable. I've heard that the pocketbook 902/903 is slower, but don't actually know firsthand. Text pdf's (like journal papers) are pretty snappy. The downside is that the kindle doesn't support links- or even a linked table of contents- so navigating in large documents can be hard. You can put bookmarks, but those only tell you the page number (in the pdf), so you're stuck wondering if the bookmark on page 207 is the start of chapter 6 or chapter 7. For text pdfs, search also works, but it can be pretty slow. Hope this helps!

02-02-2011, 12:14 PM	#33
jocampo Layback feline Posts: 3,034 Karma: 6980745 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Device: Oasis 2nd gen, Sony DPTS1, iPad Pro 10.5"	I would be cautious with the Notion Ink Adam, at least for following months. The few people that received their orders already, have complained a lot about the screen, operating system and even how some app works on it. And this have been posted on different and several portals, so I don't think is an isolated case. Anyway, just dropping my 2 cents, the Adam is a expensive device and not even shipped from USA, so people should be aware of those kind of issues.

02-02-2011, 12:24 PM	#34
boswd Banned Posts: 2,391 Karma: 1001781 Join Date: May 2010 Device: The Nook, Nook color and Droid X	I would say with the Motorola Xoom release looming large this month, that would be something I would put on my 'check it out" list.

02-02-2011, 02:29 PM	#36
jian1 Banned Posts: 140 Karma: 5766 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Onyx Boox M92	The more I read about the replies the harder it becomes to decide. Anyways, I have land my decision over PocketBook 902 and the current price listed on ebay is USD$340, good deal?

02-02-2011, 10:26 PM	#39
PocketBook USA Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: 902, 701 IQ, 602, 302, 360, 301	On the PocketBook 902 the annotations is done in Notes and uses the 4-way key to highlight the selection.

02-03-2011, 04:21 PM	#41
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	seems high

02-03-2011, 04:32 PM	#42
boswd Banned Posts: 2,391 Karma: 1001781 Join Date: May 2010 Device: The Nook, Nook color and Droid X	This is also an interesting product geared towards students and teachers http://www.kno.com/waitlist-landing

02-04-2011, 12:42 AM	#45
v1k1ng1001 Addict Posts: 378 Karma: 1624276 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: South, South Texas Device: Pocketbook 620	My PB 602 is pretty nice so I think you'll like the 902. My guess is that you'd want the pocketbook 903 with the touchscreen for annotations? Is that available yet? The nice thing about the PBs is that you can expand the memory to 32gb with micro sd cards which is nice because .pdf files take up a lot of space. I filled up 16gb in no time.