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Old 01-19-2011, 08:59 AM   #76
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I honestly do not miss the cellphone's capability. And when I bought it, I was fully aware that was not going to be there; did not have or picture the Galaxy Tab as my cellphone.

What I find extremely useful though is the fact of having data connectivity (via 3G) anytime and anywhere, of course, assuming I do have good signal and Tmobile coverage area. I can even use my HP laptop and connect via VPN (using the tab as Hot Spot) is there is something urgent I need to fix or needs my attention.
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I'll link since it is of interest and some may be unaware.

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Great info, thanks!
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While I agree that the Samsung Galaxy Tab is a very nice device, and that it has better hardware when compared with the nook color, I find the comparison unfair. If you compare a nice, well built economy car with a nice, well built luxury car, the luxury car will win because...it's probably twice as expensive! That's why cars are compared in their class.

If you compare an unaltered nook color with the Galaxy tab, you are comparing a color ereader with a tablet. Yes you can read ebooks on both, but they are different devices. An imac can be used to read ebooks, and so can a smart phone, but you wouldn't compare the two.

Even if you compare a rooted nook color with the Galaxy Tab, there is still a significant price differential. If the devices were within $50 of each other that would be a different story. But, the Galaxy Tab is at least double the price. Yes, with a contract you can get it cheaper, but you are still paying more money, even if you desire the service. I don't need 3g, so I wouldn't be able to afford a Galaxy Tab, contract or not.

With all that being said, a rooted nook color is not that far in functionality from the Galaxy Tab if you consider the price.

For Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwp9IqhBTNs

I agree that you get what you pay for, but in the case of the Galaxy Tab, I feel like you are not getting enough to justify the cost. In contrast, with a rooted nook color, I feel like I am getting more than what I paid for.

While I respect Jocampo's opinion, his experience was with an unrooted nook color yet he is comparing it to a full tablet. No offense, but to me that in not a fair comparison at all. The nook color is an excellent color ereader, and better than any other dedicated lcd one. It also makes a great 7" tablet for $250 when you look at the competition. In fact some of Jocampo's complaints (like the lack of landscape epub viewing) are easily remedied by rooting (which is not that hard).

If the Galaxy Tab had a wifi only version for $300 or less, I would buy one. I'd also buy a Macbook Pro, and a much nicer car if they were cheaper too...but they're not!
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Noah,

Sorry but I don't see anything specific on that Youtube video or where you can say the Nook Color surpasses the Galaxy Tab. Actually, that Galaxy Tab is defective or broken for sure, or a faulty service/application is affecting the booting process. GTs are as fast or faster than NC while booting. I believe mine is even faster than the NC there. Let me take a short clip with my cellphone so you can validate yourself.

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My Galaxy Tab booting:



As you can see, it takes 38s to boot up vs 50s of the Nook Color. The showed Galaxy Tab has a problem for sure or, that video has been altered (by omission or on purpose)

Another thing is, the browser's speed on Galaxy Tab is extremely fast. You can't tell for sure if that person is using same Wifi connection or proxy or if that page was in the Nook Color's cache already. In my experience, browser's comparison are not easy to video tape; in order to be fair, you need to set and clear a lot of factors so you won't get biased results because the cache, internet connection or even browser's default setting.

About comparing Nook Color vs Galaxy Tab that makes total sense to me. They both are tablets, I do not understand why people say Nook Color is an ereader. Nook Color runs on top of Android, similar screen size than Galaxy, has capacitive LCD screen and no keyboard, that's a tablet! The Nook Color UI has been customized (and locked) for marketing purposes so you can only see the B&N "front face" and applications. Besides that there is the price tag which of course, means a faster and better product with the Galaxy.

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Folks have to decide what they need/want and go from there. Saying I don't need this or that and don't want to spend XXX.XX, then why be in that thread cause the particular device isn't for you regardless. Or maybe it is and just wait till the price drops which all electronics do eventually (though I'll reiterate I don't personally feel it overpriced given the current offerings available on the market, comparing something rooted isn't fair either).

However, if it were a comparison thread it that specific subforum with a person trying to decide between two, three or more devices with perhaps some rooted I can understand that then by all means shoot it out. This thread is for the SGT, what it does, what it currently costs with the OP giving us his review for which I'm grateful cause I'm interested in this particular product.

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As you can see, it takes 38s to boot up vs 50s of the Nook Color. The showed Galaxy Tab has a problem for sure or, that video has been altered (by omission or on purpose)

Another thing is, the browser's speed on Galaxy Tab is extremely fast. You can't tell for sure if that person is using same Wifi connection or proxy or if that page was in the Nook Color's cache already. In my experience, browser's comparison are not easy to video tape; in order to be fair, you need to set and clear a lot of factors so you won't get biased results because the cache, internet connection or even browser's default setting.

About comparing Nook Color vs Galaxy Tab that makes total sense to me. They both are tablets, I do not understand why people say Nook Color is an ereader. Nook Color runs on top of Android, similar screen size than Galaxy, has capacitive LCD screen and no keyboard, that's a tablet! The Nook Color UI has been customized (and locked) for marketing purposes so you can only see the B&N "front face" and applications. Besides that there is the price tag which of course, means a faster and better product with the Galaxy.
Actually, I never said that the Nook Color surpasses the Galaxy Tab in anything. I agree with you completely that the Samsung is superior in probably every way. What I said, is that it is not that far in functionality considering the price (but the Galaxy Tab is better).

I still respectfully disagree with the comparison for two reasons:

1. Price
2. The Nook Color is locked down as an ereader which slows it down considerably and strips away functions. For example, using Zeam launcher, Set CPU, Dolphin Browser HD, Aldiko (for Landscape epub viewing), etc. changes things considerably.

Don't you agree that out of fairness, if you are going to compare them as full tablets, you should at least compare a rooted nook color to the Galaxy Tab? And also, when you pay twice as much as something isn't it expected to be a better product?

All I'm looking for is making a comparison based on price/value and also the full capabilities of each.
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As you can see, it takes 38s to boot up vs 50s of the Nook Color. The showed Galaxy Tab has a problem for sure or, that video has been altered (by omission or on purpose)

Another thing is, the browser's speed on Galaxy Tab is extremely fast. You can't tell for sure if that person is using same Wifi connection or proxy or if that page was in the Nook Color's cache already. In my experience, browser's comparison are not easy to video tape; in order to be fair, you need to set and clear a lot of factors so you won't get biased results because the cache, internet connection or even browser's default setting.

About comparing Nook Color vs Galaxy Tab that makes total sense to me. They both are tablets, I do not understand why people say Nook Color is an ereader. Nook Color runs on top of Android, similar screen size than Galaxy, has capacitive LCD screen and no keyboard, that's a tablet! The Nook Color UI has been customized (and locked) for marketing purposes so you can only see the B&N "front face" and applications. Besides that there is the price tag which of course, means a faster and better product with the Galaxy.
again you are going off on a horrible misinformation tangent. The nook color's user interface is all about ereader and it's features. Its no different than th UI the Sony has or the kindle or the eink nook. All these interfaces are geared to be ereading centric. That is what the Nook color UI is and much much more. The nook color is capable of having features that eink can not provide or features that are as good as they can be when using LCD tech

the only area where is it geared towards shopping at Barnes and Noble is it's Shop App. Now how is that any different than the others. When you are on your kindle and you are shopping from your device, what bookstore does that bring you to?

The kindle or Sony uses eink to run it's screen, nook color uses LCD screen to runs it's screen.

Where does it say in the ereader manual that it has to be eink in order to be an ereader?

Also can you show me a press release where barnes and noble has claimed for this to be a full blown tablet out to compete with the iPad?


Actually can you give me one aspect of what the nook colors locked ui that is for "marketing"?

why would you even compare the two/ As has noah as said a rooted one would be a more logical comparision.

but Barnes and Noble has never meant for this to be a full feldge tablet, Only an ereader tablet. And that is exactly what it is.

It's an ereader that uses LCD Tech instead of eink that needs to have OS, it chose Android for that OS. The Android market and all the tablet like functions are locked out because it's and ereader not a tablet.

Now if BN announced they have a tablet that is going to be an iPad and Galaxy S Tab killer, they you have a great point, but they didn't. They even said right off the bat if you are expecting a full blown tablet, then you'll be disappointed. Apparently you didn't get the memo.

It's ereader nothing more nothing less.

Serious question, were you fired by Barnes and Noble or something?:

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I guess I'm not the only one to notice that Joe never misses a chance to knock a Nook...
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Actually, this thread is about the GT and my experience about it. I replied to Noah because that Youtube video is just misleading. I don't want people to get false statements about the Galaxy, giving the case I own one and can speak by personal experience, not just third party reviews.
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Actually, I never said that the Nook Color surpasses the Galaxy Tab in anything. I agree with you completely that the Samsung is superior in probably every way. What I said, is that it is not that far in functionality considering the price (but the Galaxy Tab is better).

I still respectfully disagree with the comparison for two reasons:

1. Price
2. The Nook Color is locked down as an ereader which slows it down considerably and strips away functions. For example, using Zeam launcher, Set CPU, Dolphin Browser HD, Aldiko (for Landscape epub viewing), etc. changes things considerably.

Don't you agree that out of fairness, if you are going to compare them as full tablets, you should at least compare a rooted nook color to the Galaxy Tab? And also, when you pay twice as much as something isn't it expected to be a better product?

All I'm looking for is making a comparison based on price/value and also the full capabilities of each.
So, you posted a video or link from a Galaxy Tab that takes an eternity to boot, you also said that based on that video you believe the differences in functionality are not too big, but now you are saying the NC does not surpass the GT? Frankly speaking, I don't understand.

If you show that video to someone who is expecting to buy or get a Galaxy Tab (fair assumption because this thread is by no means, a comparison one) do you really think that the person is going to get a good feeling? That's why I just replied and post another video with mine.
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A tablet is a computer device which main peripheral or I/O devices is the screen. Keyboard is usually virtual and screen's input via fingerprint or stylus.
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A tablet is a computer device which main peripheral or I/O devices is the screen. Keyboard is usually virtual and screen's input via fingerprint or stylus.
then that qualifies the Kindle, the Sony's the Kobo's the nook eink as tablets then. I guess in a pure strict technical definition they are all tablets. But the difference is all those use user interfaces to be ereading centric, it doesn't matter if the tech is eink or LCD, the goal is the same.
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