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Old 01-19-2011, 07:45 AM   #1
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[B]Looking for 701 IQ Original/Stock Firmware[/B]

As noted, I'm looking for the original firmware for the 701 IQ, not the updates (2.0.2 or 2.0.3).

I tried out the repacked firmware, and while exceptionally nice, some of my favorite programs wouldn't work on it. So, I decided to reflash my PB 701 back to original specs.

At least, that was the plan

I've tried the 2.0.2, the 2.0.3, reinstall, reset, factory reset, the repack, over and over, and for whatever reason, my 701 doesn't reset completely to factory specs. It looks like it does, however, under 2.0.2 firmware, I still have the ladybug wallpaper. Under both 2.0.2 and 2.0.3, I still have personal ebooks in the internal directories when connected to my pc. Also, all the original books are still gone.

The updated firmware simply isn't installing completely, even after installing and doing a factory reset. I wouldn't mind that much, except the programs that wouldn't work under the repack... are still not working under the updated firmware!

I'm hoping that someone might have the original developers firmware, the 'beginning' firmware, that I could hopefully try out to see if I can get my baby back 100%

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Old 01-19-2011, 07:47 AM   #2
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Okay, how the heck do I bold the title? And edit posts? Newbie to forums here, so be gentle please
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:26 AM   #3
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Okay, how the heck do I bold the title?
You don't.

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And edit posts? Newbie to forums here, so be gentle please

You click the little "Edit" button in the south-east corner of your post.

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I've tried the 2.0.2, the 2.0.3, reinstall, reset, factory reset, the repack, over and over, and for whatever reason, my 701 doesn't reset completely to factory specs.
What makes you think that?

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I still have personal ebooks in the internal directories when connected to my pc.
Of course. Why should a firmware update (which installs to the onboard flash) trash the content of your external SD card?

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Also, all the original books are still gone.
The book were on the internal SD card. There are "vendor updates" which reinstall them. Why they would disappear I can not say.

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The updated firmware simply isn't installing completely, even after installing and doing a factory reset.
It most certainly does install completely.

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I wouldn't mind that much, except the programs that wouldn't work under the repack... are still not working under the updated firmware!
Hint: "not working" is not an error-report useful to anybody. What program precisely does not work? How exactly did you install the program?
What precisely happens when you try to run it? What did you expect it to do?
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:48 AM   #4
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You don't.
Okay. So I'm guessing it appears bold to everyone else, except the creator?

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You click the little "Edit" button in the south-east corner of your post.
Yes, I saw that, but then I couldn't change the title and remove the bold marks. Wasn't sure if I needed to do something else.

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What makes you think that?
Because the internal directories, where the original slew of non english books and etc were at, didn't change, which, when taking it back to factory specs, I would think would. Also, as I said, I still had personal books on the internal directories after a factory reset, which should not happen.

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Of course. Why should a firmware update (which installs to the onboard flash) trash the content of your external SD card?
It wouldn't. That's why I said internal directories, not external.

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The book were on the internal SD card. There are "vendor updates" which reinstall them. Why they would disappear I can not say.
Yep, that's partly why I'm saying it's not installing correctly...

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It most certainly does install completely.
Nope, not on mine, otherwise, I don't think I'd be seeing these small problems... It could be a unit error, user error or who knows. The upgrade is extremely easy to do, especially since I've now done it several times (!) so, newbie or not, I don't think it's me... but I could be wrong

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Hint: "not working" is not an error-report useful to anybody. What program precisely does not work? How exactly did you install the program?
What precisely happens when you try to run it? What did you expect it to do?
Neither AEPReader or Coolreader will access the memory card. They did previous to the repack, nada since then. They are installed from a memory card to the unit in the normal manner through the file manager. While they open fine, when you try to go to the external sd card through either one, it's as if there's no card to go to.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:19 AM   #5
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Okay. So I'm guessing it appears bold to everyone else, except the creator?
Indeed, bold just means "unread". As the creator, it is set to "read" automatically.

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Because the internal directories, where the original slew of non english books and etc were at, didn't change, which, when taking it back to factory specs, I would think would. Also, as I said, I still had personal books on the internal directories after a factory reset, which should not happen.
I don't know about anybody else, but I'd probably be royally pissed if a firmware update, which has nothing to do with the SD cards, would wipe the cards clean and remove all my stuff for no good reason.



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Nope, not on mine,
The firmware resides in flash, and has nothing to do with your SD cards.
So yes, the firmware was indeed installed correctly.

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otherwise, I don't think I'd be seeing these small problems... It could be a unit error, user error or who knows. The upgrade is extremely easy to do, especially since I've now done it several times (!) so, newbie or not, I don't think it's me... but I could be wrong
Your definition of "firmware" is off, that's all

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Neither AEPReader or Coolreader will access the memory card. They did previous to the repack, nada since then.
These programs are probably only looking at certain directories (like Books or eBooks) for books. That could be configurable tho.

I made a copy of the content of the internal card right after I purchased the unit. I can upload it for you if you want.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:58 AM   #6
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Hi Oreocat,

There may be some misunderstanding on your part as to the "internal" card.

For the IQ, the internal card is just a 2GB microSD card. That is it is the same as the external SD Card. It is merely mounted inside the unit. It can be removed and be replaced by another card. In my case, I swapped out the 2GB card and replace it with a 1GB card because I do not use the internal card for storage.

As I understand it and as Coredumpt-EE mentioned, the firmware and applications are not saved to this "internal" SD card, they reside in flash. This is why there is a limit as to how many applications we can install on the IQ.

This is also the reason why many of us root the unit and install a2sd so that we can use part of the "internal" card for application storage.

Hope that help.

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Old 01-19-2011, 10:59 AM   #7
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Indeed, bold just means "unread". As the creator, it is set to "read" automatically.
Aha! Okay, now I understand, and won't try to bold the title any longer

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I don't know about anybody else, but I'd probably be royally pissed if a firmware update, which has nothing to do with the SD cards, would wipe the cards clean and remove all my stuff for no good reason.
Ahem, well, if you're going to make sense.... I think I'm too used to my old pocket pc, where, when you did a hard reset, everything was wiped clean (except your own sd card). I was thinking that the reinstall and factory reset would place the non-english books and etc back into the folders since I had removed those...


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The firmware resides in flash, and has nothing to do with your SD cards.
So yes, the firmware was indeed installed correctly.
Cool! I bow to your much superior knowledge of Android And, thanks for the explanation, I really do appreciate it.

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Your definition of "firmware" is off, that's all
Yeah, I'm getting that impression....

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These programs are probably only looking at certain directories (like Books or eBooks) for books. That could be configurable tho.

I made a copy of the content of the internal card right after I purchased the unit. I can upload it for you if you want.
I did get AEPReader to find books on the internal card last night at work, so I'm ok there for now. Since the firmware is fine, I think I'm going to reinstall the repack, (I really did prefer it), and see if AEPreader will still read off the internal card. If it will, I'm not going to worry about it. If not... I'll be posting again

Thank you for the offer, but after your information and help, I'm good for now. I'm gonna play a little bit more with it, get some sleep, and see how it goes tonight.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:10 AM   #8
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Hi Oreocat,

There may be some misunderstanding on your part as to the "internal" card.

For the IQ, the internal card is just a 2GB microSD card. That is it is the same as the external SD Card. It is merely mounted inside the unit. It can be removed and be replaced by another card. In my case, I swapped out the 2GB card and replace it with a 1GB card because I do not use the internal card for storage.

As I understand it and as Coredumpt-EE mentioned, the firmware and applications are not saved to this "internal" SD card, they reside in flash. This is why there is a limit as to how many applications we can install on the IQ.

This is also the reason why many of us root the unit and install a2sd so that we can use part of the "internal" card for application storage.

Hope that help.

Cheers
Thank you, I was misunderstanding. Not sure why it simply wasn't making sense to me, but you and Coredumpt-EE have made it much clearer. I appreciate the help.

(I did see how to install a2sd, and it was so far over my head, it might as well have had wings!

I'm a simple user anyway-a lot of books, a card game or two, a match three, and I'm a happy girl )
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(I did see how to install a2sd, and it was so far over my head, it might as well have had wings!
If you look at Coredump-EE signature, he also packaged a2sd so it is really just a few keystrokes.

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If you look at Coredump-EE signature, he also packaged a2sd so it is really just a few keystrokes.

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:: That's the post I was talking about! The partioning I mostly get, although I've never heard of vfat or ext3.

However it's the 'adb', 'remount', shell something or other, etc that loses me! Give me an app that I install that asks me if I want to install apps to an external card, and if yes, how much room do I want to let it have, and I'm good. Beyond that, it'd be a disaster in the making
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I quite agree with Oreocat.

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However it's the 'adb', 'remount', shell something or other, etc that loses me! Give me an app that I install that asks me if I want to install apps to an external card, and if yes, how much room do I want to let it have, and I'm good. Beyond that, it'd be a disaster in the makin
I've already had a brick 701IQ without doing anything other than adding apps from my sd card, using the app manager. I am supposed to get my 701 back today from PB service center. The contact said that the firmware had been corrupted and caused a brick condition(not quoting). If just using and adding a few apps can corrupt the firmware without 'rooting' etc., why would I want to go where I could screw it up again.
I think all of you good folks are doing a great job of showing us noobies about Android and PB's, but some of us are really afraid of having to return their PB's to the service center again.
Sorry for running on.
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