ADE - Why Is Adobe So Messed Up?

[Andrew H.]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Kindle DRM is even worse... Requires you to re download everything if you got a new reader.... And, there is that not so small problem with not being readable on an other e-reader that the kindle. When your kindle 1 dies, you'll be stick with losing all you book, or getting an other kindle... Too bad if you fell like changing. !

That's a completely different issue, though. *Buying* drm'd books from Amazon on a Kindle is absolutely flawless.

[=X=]

Originally Posted by vaughnmr

Once again I'm reminded why I got a Kindle...

Kindle has the same limit but applies it on a per book baisess

[=X=]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Kindle DRM is even worse... Requires you to re download everything if you got a new reader.... And, there is that not so small problem with not being readable on an other e-reader that the kindle. When your kindle 1 dies, you'll be stick with losing all you book, or getting an other kindle... Too bad if you fell like changing.
It's not adobe you should petition at, it's the publishers insisting on crappy DRM !

no you don't in fact you don't even need to buy a kindle to read kindle books.
And there is NO such thing as better DRM.

=X=

[=X=]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Before you go all "Online Petition" on their a$$... have you tried contacting customer service? Just a suggestion.

Yes i believe i read somewhere that looking for ineptepub will increase the limit.

[Purple Lady]

Originally Posted by vaughnmr

Actually, every single ebook I've ever bought is sitting right now in Calibre, sans drm, LOL.

especially since it's so easy now with the plugins

[lene1949]

Originally Posted by emt

Have been trying CS for days - they're not home! Seriously, they have no idea how to increase/reset activations. One jerk told me to go to the support site and "submit a case" - yet on the site there's no way to do this. Another jerk told me to open a new account (while reminding me that my computer/current account would no longer be able to read my current books.

I believe that Adobe is brain-dead at the top - fortunately I'll bet that in less than 5 years they'll be irrelevant because both HTML5 and newer ebook reading systems will displace the older technology.

I know how you feel... I have had for months the same problem... All the advise I've had could not be followed through... I ended up removing DRM for epub books... That's the only way I can read them on my Sony...

I think I know, what happened... I had 3 devices activated on ADE.. When I got my Sony I activated it on ADE... Then I downloaded Sony reader software, and they also wanted me to activate the reader.. I did that, and then next time I went to ADE they asked for activation, so I did it again... and there you go.... too many activations...

I was so desperate to be able to read epub, that I had bought several readers, before buying the Sony... but now Amazon seems to have all the titles I was desperate for available... No more any need for my Sony..

[murraypaul]

Originally Posted by =X=

Kindle has the same limit but applies it on a per book baisess

You can authorise and deauthorise Kindle devices/apps on the fly though, you don't need someone else to do it for you.

[EowynCarter]

Originally Posted by =X=

no you don't in fact you don't even need to buy a kindle to read kindle books.

I said : no other e-reader. (e-reader there being "dedicated device with e-ink screen".)

And there is NO such thing as better DRM.

Yup, all DRM are bad.

[curtw]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Beware, do NOT use the sony reader app to download books from shop other than sony's. Make sure to use ADE.

I don't think this is a universally-applicable warning. I got tired of ADE's required re-download every time they update the software, and have switched pretty much exclusively to Sony. I use the same e-mail address for both my Adobe ID and my Sony account, and use the Sony software for purchases, public library downloads, everything. No problems (Mac and Windows).

[murraypaul]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

I said : no other e-reader. (e-reader there being "dedicated device with e-ink screen".)

Well if you define words to mean what you say they mean
Another way of looking at it is that you can read Kindle books on almost all devices, except eInk ones.

[ProfCrash]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Kindle DRM is even worse... Requires you to re download everything if you got a new reader.... And, there is that not so small problem with not being readable on an other e-reader that the kindle. When your kindle 1 dies, you'll be stick with losing all you book, or getting an other kindle... Too bad if you fell like changing.

It's not adobe you should petition at, it's the publishers insisting on crappy DRM !

I have three active Kindles and 1 Kindle for PC on my one account and a fourth Kindle that was lost. I have not had to redownload anything. All the books are available in the archive for all the various Kindles.

I have had to download the books individually to a specific Kindle but you would have to do that with any device.

K1, 2 DXG's, and 1 DX and no redownloading.

[ProfCrash]

Originally Posted by =X=

Kindle has the same limit but applies it on a per book baisess

My understanding is that now you get the license back when you remove the book from a device.

I know originally you had to call Amazon when you reached the limit and let them know which devices had been sold or were no longer in use so that the licenses on those books could be released. I know someone who called in with a few hundred books and spent an hour or so on the phone with CS. I am guessing that after a few phone calls like that the policy changed.

And the license limit is based on the Publisher. Most seem to have it set at 6 but there are some who set it higher and a few that set it lower.

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by ProfCrash

I have not had to redownload anything. All the books are available in the archive for all the various Kindles.

To be perfectly fair... the Archive is just a very handy way to "re-download everything."
Each entry in the Archive is just a stub file (not the actual ebook) that re-downloads the book for you when you click on it.

So yes, if you get a new Kindle, you're going to have to go into your archive and "re-download everything" (if you want all of your past purchases on your new device).

Semantics, I know.

[ProfCrash]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

To be perfectly fair... the Archive is just a very handy way to "re-download everything."
Each entry in the Archive is just a stub file (not the actual ebook) that re-downloads the book for you when you click on it.

So yes, if you get a new Kindle, you're going to have to go into your archive and "re-download everything" (if you want all of your past purchases on your new device).

Semantics, I know.

If that is the case then everyone has to redownload everything. I doubt that Sony has it set up that when you download a book it goes to all your Sony devices.

"When your kindle 1 dies, you'll be stick with losing all you book, or getting an other kindle... Too bad if you fell like changing."

What the OP of that post was saying was that if you had books on a K1 and you got rid of the K1 you would not be able to read those books on a K3. This is not correct. Kindle accounts are set up so that multiple e-readers can be used on them and everyone on that account has access to those books. You do not lose access when you change devices.

[Maggie Leung]

Originally Posted by ProfCrash

My understanding is that now you get the license back when you remove the book from a device.

I spoke to Amazon CS about this and they said all I'd have to do is deregister devices to recover licenses. I have five devices registered and have deregistered two others, and I haven't run into licensing issues yet.