READ 100 BOOKS IN 2011

[Care]

Originally Posted by Catlady

I vote for my own idea, largely because it's the only one I understand. Leave the original setup for listing books. Start a new sticky so there can be a discussion of books from the lists whenever someone feels the urge to delve into something specific.

But the original setup for listing our books would have the same problems as what you posted below since it is one thread with a hundred people posting on it.

Originally Posted by Catlady

But then how are the lists going to be updated? Wade through a thread for your own spot and edit? Who's going to pay attention to the new edits? Isn't that what we have now? Quoting doesn't mean anything if the new material isn't really findable in the thread.

Also, you can't move through the groups threads as easily as you can in the forum. If you did see a review you liked you can't even reply to it, unless you want to copy, paste, and quote it yourself.

[wvcherrybomb]

Originally Posted by CWatkinsNash

I tallied up the posts in this thread, but posting the numbers might start a battle and we've already gotten crazy with this.

What do you mean? Now I'm confused too.

[wvcherrybomb]

Originally Posted by GA Russell

I would like to be able to have a list of my books read, either as one post or as a thread in which only I participate.

But then there would be like 150 (?) individual threads for people to have to click on seperately and I don't think most people will want to do that. I understand your reasoning but it seems like many people will miss out on many good read lists this way.

An additional advantage of everyone being on the same thread is that when someone finishes/adds a new book, that post will be brought to the top where more people will see it. Nobody will be burried behind pages and pages of threads in the deep, dark recesses of forum cellar.

[Care]

Originally Posted by wvcherrybomb

But then there would be like 150 (?) individual threads for people to have to click on seperately and I don't think most people will want to do that. I understand your reasoning but it seems like many people will miss out on many good read lists this way.

An additional advantage of everyone being on the same thread is that when someone finishes/adds a new book, that post will be brought to the top where more people will see it. Nobody will be burried behind pages and pages of threads in the deep, dark recesses of forum cellar.

So instead of editing our original post, we just keep posting a new comment as we finish?

I can see pros and cons for each way.

[Dawdler]

Originally Posted by Care

So instead of editing our original post, we just keep posting a new comment as we finish?

I can see pros and cons for each way.

I think that may be the best way, I mentioned something similar earlier and I got ignored. At this point I'll go with what everybody decides as long as we have instructions because in my opinion this debate is going on far too long and has become rather confusing.

[wvcherrybomb]

Originally Posted by Care

So instead of editing our original post, we just keep posting a new comment as we finish?

I can see pros and cons for each way.

I thought of that after I posted it. Now it sounds stupid because we would have a seperate post for each book instead of a list. I am a loss as to how to handle the threads now.

If we could just get our own sub-forum, we could start figuring out how to run the threads. At least with our own forum we could have as many threads as we wanted under it. I am just concerned about some people being buried so many pages down that they won't get attention.

Maybe we could keep individual lists and edit our lists, then post the newest entries on a dedicated thread just for that? Maybe what some people were saying all along but I'm confused.

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by wvcherrybomb

I thought of that after I posted it. Now it sounds stupid because we would have a seperate post for each book instead of a list. I am a loss as to how to handle the threads now.

If we could just get our own sub-forum, we could start figuring out how to run the threads. At least with our own forum we could have as many threads as we wanted under it. I am just concerned about some people being buried so many pages down that they won't get attention.

Maybe we could keep individual lists and edit our lists, then post the newest entries on a dedicated thread just for that? Maybe what some people were saying all along but I'm confused.

I'd like to try the two sticky approach and see how that works. if it turns out to be unworkable, we could move on from there

[Iridal]

I see the night crew has been busy

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

I'd like to try the two sticky approach and see how that works. if it turns out to be unworkable, we could move on from there

A subforum would be ideal where everyone has a thread to list their books and there's one thread where people who want to can discuss their books.

But I vote for the two threads as well, because that seems like the easiest solution to our problem:
- one for lists (as in the social group), where people edit their post to add new books (so that way we get 105 posts, so you still have a chance of finding your own post). Maybe we should state in the first post of this thread that discussion should be limilted to a minimum, that way it doesn't get too crowded.
- one for discussion. My main concern with this is that people will use it to just say: I finished this book and will now start that one. That's what we already do in the 'what are you reading' thread in the book recommendation's forum. I would really like to see some reviews in this discussion thread and, as someone has said, ask about books that have caught your eye on someone else's list.

So I agree with you KK, we should just go ahead and set it up. Go with the flow

Oh, TERMINATOR has let me know he's in favor of a discussion thread.

[Iridal]

Originally Posted by taming

I love that show and looked up all the rules. Thanks for the giggle.

The rules for the improved “Rock-Paper-Scissors-Lizard-Spock” version are:

• Scissors cuts Paper
• Paper covers Rock
• Rock crushes Lizard
• Lizard poisons Spock
• Spock smashes Scissors
• Scissors decapitates Lizard
• Lizard eats Paper
• Paper disproves Spock
• Spock vaporizes Rock
• Rock crushes Scissors

Yep, the rules are in my signature I love that show too, and this was my favourite scene.

[Iridal]

Originally Posted by wvcherrybomb

But then there would be like 150 (?) individual threads for people to have to click on seperately and I don't think most people will want to do that. I understand your reasoning but it seems like many people will miss out on many good read lists this way.

I think one thread where everyone lists his books will have the same problems as the one thread per person idea. I probably won't read everyone's list anyway (that's a book in itself ), but just the list of people I know have similar taste or I'm 'friendly' with. But that's where the discussion thread comes in. People can talk about a really good book they've read, that way everyone who follows this discussion thread will be aware of the highly recommended books.

[Crusader]

If there is a sub-forum each person can get their own thread. The first post is then used for the entire list (by editing). Each time the person finish a new book they post a new post in their thread (bringing it to the top). They can also post their review/answer questions related to the book.

Simple.

[sun surfer]

Wow, I come back after a day and there's about 5 more pages to read!

Thanks to those who welcomed me; I'm not sure I want to join a 100 club when just reading 50 will be a challenge to me. For instance, some of you have already started and finished reading two books (by your tickers) and I'm still reading the one I started last year (that won't count)! But I think I may be up for the challenge, if it's OK with all of you if I only go for 50.

I have read through all these pages though and thought I'd add my opinion. Like Catlady, I am confused! But, I think I may understand enough.

I'm not sure why we'd need a "books you've read" thread and also a separate "books you're reading" read. If all the same people are reading both threads, it seems unnecessary, perhaps.

I've checked out the group page and have read from your posts the limitations it presents, and why threads here may be better. If we don't get a separate subforum here, then here's what I propose (which may be what someone else has already proposed!):

We keep one thread for general discussion, such as this one, and possibly have it stickied. It will be large and unwieldy if membership stays this large, but that's OK. It's just for discussion and anyone currently participating can always go to the last pages to join in and catch up.

We have another thread for book lists, and possibly have it stickied too. Each person can have a post that they list their books in and edit it (if they want), AND/or when they start or finish a book, they can post that in this thread, possibly with their updated "read" list, and a review if they like. It's really each person's choice how they want to use this thread. It will also be large and unwieldy too, but that's OK, and we will try to limit posting in this thread to only posting when you've started/finished a book, reviews and lists, with no commenting on others' posts. If someone wants to comment on a review or list, they can in the other thread.

As for the group page, we can use it for anyone who wants their own private threads to post lists and whatnot. They can post a thread there for themselves and for anyone who may want to go and browse around. Basically, we won't use the group page because of the limitations mentioned, but someone who really wants to have their own thread (as some in this thread seem to want) can use the group page to do so in addition to using our book lists thread here (since most of us will be using the threads here).

Does that make sense? Sorry for the long post; I'm just trying to help find a good middle ground to a question with no perfect solution.

[Iridal]

Originally Posted by sun surfer

Thanks to those who welcomed me; I'm not sure I want to join a 100 club when just reading 50 will be a challenge to me. For instance, some of you have already started and finished reading two books (by your tickers) and I'm still reading the one I started last year (that won't count)! But I think I may be up for the challenge, if it's OK with all of you if I only go for 50.

That's OK sun surfer, I'll probably read about 60 to 75 books this year. It's not a competition, just a way to challenge yourself ! It's also a great way to keep track of the things you read and see what other people read.

Originally Posted by sun surfer

We keep one thread for general discussion, such as this one, and possibly have it stickied. It will be large and unwieldy if membership stays this large, but that's OK. It's just for discussion and anyone currently participating can always go to the last pages to join in and catch up.

We have another thread for book lists, and possibly have it stickied too. Each person can have a post that they list their books in and edit it (if they want), AND/or when they start or finish a book, they can post that in this thread, possibly with their updated "read" list, and a review if they like. It's really each person's choice how they want to use this thread. It will also be large and unwieldy too, but that's OK, and we will try to limit posting in this thread to only posting when you've started/finished a book, reviews and lists, with no commenting on others' posts. If someone wants to comment on a review or list, they can in the other thread.

It's seems like you understood everything that's been said, cause that's the idea me and some other people have introduced here. Only you explained it way better than me. I'm lazy, less words is better

Originally Posted by sun surfer

As for the group page, we can use it for anyone who wants their own private threads to post lists and whatnot. They can post a thread their for themselves and for anyone who may want to go and browse around. Basically, we won't use the group page because of the limitations mentioned, but someone who really wants to have their own thread (as some in this thread seem to want) can use the group page to do so in addition to using our book lists thread here (since most of us will be using the threads here).

Seems like a good compromise to me !

Originally Posted by sun surfer

I'm not sure why we'd need a "books you've read" thread and also a separate "books you're reading" read. If all the same people are reading both threads, it seems unnecessary, perhaps.

The main reason for keeping the two threads separate is to make sure people can find their list to edit it. If you mingle the two, the thread will become really unwieldy and no-one will be able to find their own list anymore.

[sun surfer]

Thanks, Iridal!

I went ahead and set up my ticker then.

The main reason for keeping the two threads separate is to make sure people can find their list to edit it. If you mingle the two, the thread will become really unwieldy and no-one will be able to find their own list anymore.

I agree with two separate threads; I was merely commenting on the names of the threads, and that I thought those two by kindlekitten were going to be in addition to a general discussion thread. So, I was thinking it was suggested that we have a general discussion thread, a thread for ones we've read and a thread for ones we're reading, which seemed like two very similar threads in that regard. So only two threads instead of three seems to be what we're both saying I think?

As for thread names, I would suggest something other than "books you're reading". Not that it's terribly important but just to keep it clear and simple, because the general discussion thread will be about anything book-group related, including books others have already read (since we won't be discussing and commenting in the other thread), so "books you're reading" maybe sounds constricting. Something like "Read 100 Books in 2011! The General Discussion Thread" is a possibility.

Or, perhaps we just keep this thread as the general discussion thread and kindlekitten's "books you've read" thread as the list/review thread. But I don't want to rankle anyone! It's all just semantics, and if all of you prefer another title/thread then I'm fine with it too.

[taming]

Originally Posted by Iridal

Yep, the rules are in my signature I love that show too, and this was my favourite scene.

I have signatures turned off, sorry!