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Old 01-02-2011, 08:19 AM   #1036
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...(also from "In the name of Honor" (UK: "In the name of Honour") by Richard North Patterson):

..."no one should be judged by the worst moment of their life"
Absolutely not! We'd all go down in history as villains!

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Old 01-02-2011, 08:22 AM   #1037
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.....We thus see, however, that all the progress we have made in philosophy, that is, all that has been made since the Greeks, is the result of that methodical skepticism which is the first element of human freedom.
..........— Charles S(anders) Peirce (1839-1914), American philosopher; author of Pragmatism. Values in a Universe of Chance: Selected Writings of Charles S. Peirce edited by Philip P. Wiener, 1st edition (Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1958). From the section entitled "Extracts from an Oration Delivered at the Reunion of the Cambridge High School Association Thursday Evening, November 12, 1863", page 8 (Wiener's source is the Cambridge Chronicle, a Weekly, Sat., Nov. 21, 1863, Vol. XVIII, No. 47, p. 1).
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:52 AM   #1038
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All things that have gone before are but the bleak, cold grayness of the early dawn... listen! Beyond the far edge of the world, the first yellow rays of sunlight are flooding toward us like the tide. Youth everywhere is ready to awake. Man stands poised to spring up from the Earth and thrust himself out, out, laughing, to stake a bright new homeland amid the stars! -- Angus Scrimm (Puket '83)
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:56 AM   #1039
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.....I go to the theatre to be entertained, I want to be taken out of myself, I don't want to see lust and rape and incest and sodomy and so on, I can get all that at home.
..........— From the British stage comedy Beyond the Fringe: A Revue (1963), a British comedy stage revue by Alan Bennett (1934 - ), English playwright, screenwriter, author, and actor; Peter [Edward] Cook (1937 – 1995), English satirist, writer, actor, and comedian; [Sir] Jonathan [Wolfe] Miller [CBE] (1934 - ), British theatre and opera director, author, television presenter, humorist and sculptor; and Dudley [Stuart John] Moore, [CBE] (1935 – 2002), English actor, comedian, composer and musician.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:34 PM   #1040
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People had always dreamed of a unified world. We thought it would be a richer one. It wasn't. It meant that the Eskimo got educated and learned cost accountancy, but it didn't mean that the German learned to hunt whales with a spear. It meant everyone learned how to press buttons, and no one remembered how to dive for pearls.

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Old 01-04-2011, 11:38 PM   #1041
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People had always dreamed of a unified world. We thought it would be a richer one. It wasn't. It meant that the Eskimo got educated and learned cost accountancy, but it didn't mean that the German learned to hunt whales with a spear. It meant everyone learned how to press buttons, and no one remembered how to dive for pearls.

-- Terry Pratchett "Strata" 1981
Fantastic quote!
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:48 PM   #1042
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These young ladies today....

.....I see ladies' silk dresses, if those deserve to be called dresses which can neither cover their body or their shame; when wearing which, they can scarcely with a good conscience, swear that they are not naked. These are imported at a vast expense from nations unknown even to trade, in order that our matrons may show as much of their persons in public as they do to their lovers in private.
..........— Lucius Annaeus Seneca (circa 4 BCE – 65 CE), Roman Stoic philosopher, statesman, dramatist, and in one work humorist. On Benefits, Book VII, Section IX (circa 63 CE).

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Old 01-04-2011, 11:59 PM   #1043
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.....I see ladies' silk dresses, if those deserve to be called dresses which can neither cover their body or their shame; when wearing which, they can scarcely with a good conscience, swear that they are not naked.
..........— Lucius Annaeus Seneca (circa 4 BCE – 65 CE), Roman Stoic philosopher, statesman, dramatist, and in one work humorist. On Benefits, Book VII, Section IX.
Some things never change. Would we want them to?

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Old 01-05-2011, 12:14 AM   #1044
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.....Wildest dreams are the necessary first steps toward scientific investigation.
..........— Charles S. Peirce (1839-1914), American philosopher, logician, mathematician, and scientist. Lowell Lectures on the History of Science, "Ancient Science" (1892), from Values in a Universe of Chance: Selected Writings of Charles S. Peirce (1839-1914), 1st ed. (Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1958), Edited and with an Introduction and Notes by Philip P. Wiener. Page 233.
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:15 AM   #1045
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People had always dreamed of a unified world. We thought it would be a richer one. It wasn't. It meant that the Eskimo got educated and learned cost accountancy, but it didn't mean that the German learned to hunt whales with a spear. It meant everyone learned how to press buttons, and no one remembered how to dive for pearls.

-- Terry Pratchett "Strata" 1981
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.....I see ladies' silk dresses, if those deserve to be called dresses which can neither cover their body or their shame; when wearing which, they can scarcely with a good conscience, swear that they are not naked.
..........— Lucius Annaeus Seneca (circa 4 BCE – 65 CE), Roman Stoic philosopher, statesman, dramatist, and in one work humorist. On Benefits, Book VII, Section IX (circa 63 CE).

I like naked.


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.....Wildest dreams are the necessary first steps toward scientific investigation.
..........— Charles S. Peirce (1839-1914), American philosopher, logician, mathematician, and scientist. Lowell Lectures on the History of Science, "Ancient Science" (1892), from Values in a Universe of Chance: Selected Writings of Charles S. Peirce (1839-1914), 1st ed. (Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1958), Edited and with an Introduction and Notes by Philip P. Wiener. Page 233.
Great quote. I seem to constantly run into those who either deny or claim that there is no creativity in science.

(or insist that science is a religion based on beliefs)
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:05 AM   #1047
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I like naked.
Then you would have loved the dream I had last night! (And, no, I wasn't the naked one -- or at least the only naked one of the group!)
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.....I go to the theatre to be entertained, I want to be taken out of myself, I don't want to see lust and rape and incest and sodomy and so on, I can get all that at home.
..........— From the British stage comedy Beyond the Fringe: A Revue (1963), a British comedy stage revue by Alan Bennett (1934 - ), English playwright, screenwriter, author, and actor; Peter [Edward] Cook (1937 – 1995), English satirist, writer, actor, and comedian; [Sir] Jonathan [Wolfe] Miller [CBE] (1934 - ), British theatre and opera director, author, television presenter, humorist and sculptor; and Dudley [Stuart John] Moore, [CBE] (1935 – 2002), English actor, comedian, composer and musician.
Alan Bennett!

I read The Uncommon Reader last year and fell in love with him
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:19 AM   #1049
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Alan Bennett!

I read The Uncommon Reader last year and fell in love with him
Yes, I've seen that quote attributed to him alone, but the stage play credits all four writers.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:26 AM   #1050
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It's exactly 70 years ago:

Franklin Delano Roosevelt: The Four Freedoms

In the future days, which we seek to make secure, we look forward to a world founded upon four essential human freedoms.
  • The first is freedom of speech and expression -- everywhere in the world.
  • The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way -- everywhere in the world.
  • The third is freedom from want, which, translated into world terms, means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants -- everywhere in the world.
  • The fourth is freedom from fear, which, translated into world terms, means a world-wide reduction of armaments to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a position to commit an act of physical aggression against any neighbor -- anywhere in the world.

- Full speech you can find here: http://www.americanrhetoric.com/spee...urfreedoms.htm
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