The Vent and Rant Thread - Page 961

astrangerhere · 01-03-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by happy_terd

Maybe you should start a thread offering free legal advice. You would be up to a billion karma in a day.

While the idea is enticing, it would be very ethically dicey for me to do so. Even giving free advice can create an attorney-client relationship, and I could still be held responsible to the bar and the law if I gave incorrect advice to someone not in my jurisdiction. Yes, even if i warn them that it may not be true for where they are, they could still turn around and sue me for it if my advice leads them (or they at least say it leads them) into doing something detrimental.

wodin · 01-03-2011, 12:03 PM

Spoken like a true lawyer! Use a whole paragraph when a simple "no" would suffice.

astrangerhere · 01-03-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wodin

Spoken like a true lawyer! Use a whole paragraph when a simple "no" would suffice.

And I'm not even like Dickens - I don't get paid by the word, or even the hour because I'm corporate

taming · 01-03-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkpadx

A strong password is definitely recommended but it will help very little if the computer is compromised with a key-logger. If you want to get really secure you should use something like IronKey for sensitive data.

When it comes to deleting the card it's not a bad idea, but wouldn't it make it useless for shopping where the business require a confirmed PayPal address. This confirmation takes a few days to go through with PayPal.

I use Last Pass. Is that similar to IronKey? I have not had any problems using a credit card with PayPal, adding it in just before the purchase. Confirming a bank account is another issue entirely.

thinkpad · 01-03-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by taming

I use Last Pass. Is that similar to IronKey? I have not had any problems using a credit card with PayPal, adding it in just before the purchase. Confirming a bank account is another issue entirely.

IronKey is a secure flash drive with some nifty features:
Hardware-Level Key Management
Secure & Private Web Browsing
Onboard virtual keyboard applet to defend against keyboard loggers

taming · 01-03-2011, 03:29 PM

IronKey seems like a great tool. I use LastPass on my USB stick from within portable FireFox when I am using computers that are not my own or when I am using WiFi over a dicey/public network.

Exer · 01-03-2011, 05:00 PM

OK, here is another rant. I wrote something similar once, but the sentiment keeps popping up, so here goes again. I honestly can't stand the "us against them" attitude that some people in these forums insist on adopting.

This isn't some battlefield we are on. I'm not at war against a "Sony" person, or a "Nook" person, simply because I own a Kindle. If I browse the Sony sub-forum and see an interesting topic, I shouldn't feel scared or awkward about posting -- but a lot of users make people feel that way. They draw this line in the sand and pretty much say: Don't violate my territory!

Some folks act like these forums are some game of survival, and we're divided into opposite camps and dare not mingle with the enemy. Seriously people, I shouldn't have to scale the Great Wall of Ebook to take a risky peek at the other side.

happy_terd · 01-03-2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by astrangerhere

While the idea is enticing, it would be very ethically dicey for me to do so. Even giving free advice can create an attorney-client relationship, and I could still be held responsible to the bar and the law if I gave incorrect advice to someone not in my jurisdiction. Yes, even if i warn them that it may not be true for where they are, they could still turn around and sue me for it if my advice leads them (or they at least say it leads them) into doing something detrimental.

Could I win a case if I were to sue you for saying this? It messed me up somehow.

devilsadvocate · 01-03-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Exer

OK, here is another rant. I wrote something similar once, but the sentiment keeps popping up, so here goes again. I honestly can't stand the "us against them" attitude that some people in these forums insist on adopting.

This isn't some battlefield we are on. I'm not at war against a "Sony" person, or a "Nook" person, simply because I own a Kindle. If I browse the Sony sub-forum and see an interesting topic, I shouldn't feel scared or awkward about posting -- but a lot of users make people feel that way. They draw this line in the sand and pretty much say: Don't violate my territory!

Some folks act like these forums are some game of survival, and we're divided into opposite camps and dare not mingle with the enemy. Seriously people, I shouldn't have to scale the Great Wall of Ebook to take a risky peek at the other side.

You think that's bad, check out some of the Mac-vs-Linux-vs-Windows arguments you can find elsewhere...MR is tame by comparison. There are trolls in every forum; I vent about them here, then go over to the "What Are You Doing RIGHT NOW" thread in the Lounge for some feel-good.

astrangerhere · 01-03-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by happy_terd

Could I win a case if I were to sue you for saying this? It messed me up somehow.

Depends on what the advice is and how stupid the attorney giving it is.

An Example: Bob Bonehead of Bonehead, Idiot and Stupid LLC gives free advice to his buddy at a party about not paying his child support. Now Bob is from South Carolina and his buddy is from New York. Turns out that if Bob stops paying his child support because he lost his job in South Carolina, thats ok. In New York its not. Go to jail, do not pass go stuff. But Bob has an ethical responsibility to make sure that his buddy does not act on his advice or better yet, he just shouldn't give it. If his buddy sues him, he might well win in a malpractice action of some sort, "free advice" not withstanding.

* Disclaimer : i do not practice in NY or SC and have no idea what the child support laws are in those states.

bjones6416 · 01-03-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by happy_terd

Could I win a case if I were to sue you for saying this? It messed me up somehow.

And somehow you are tickling my funnybone today. That's twice you've made me laugh out loud.

kennyc · 01-03-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by devilsadvocate

You think that's bad, check out some of the Mac-vs-Linux-vs-Windows arguments you can find elsewhere...MR is tame by comparison. There are trolls in every forum; I vent about them here, then go over to the "What Are You Doing RIGHT NOW" thread in the Lounge for some feel-good.

And if you think that's fun you should check out some of the Science/Religion Forums....whew!!!

Stitchawl · 01-03-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

And if you think that's fun you should check out some of the Science/Religion Forums....whew!!!

For myself, I'm seeing enough nastiness in MobileRead these days without needing to go into the snake pit that a religious or political forum could be.

Stitchawl

kennyc · 01-03-2011, 08:40 PM

Well the OS wars are really just religious wars.

A bit like the DRM/pirate/Freedom of speech wars....

kennyc · 01-03-2011, 08:42 PM

Hey I just noticed I went over 17K posted.....so this is a rant! I missed it! Coulda had a celebration in the milestones thread! Dang!

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01-03-2011, 12:03 PM	#14402
wodin Illiterate Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro	Spoken like a true lawyer! Use a whole paragraph when a simple "no" would suffice.

01-03-2011, 03:29 PM	#14406
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	IronKey seems like a great tool. I use LastPass on my USB stick from within portable FireFox when I am using computers that are not my own or when I am using WiFi over a dicey/public network.

01-03-2011, 05:00 PM	#14407
Exer I see Russia! Posts: 205 Karma: 234787 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alaska Device: Etch-A-Sketch	OK, here is another rant. I wrote something similar once, but the sentiment keeps popping up, so here goes again. I honestly can't stand the "us against them" attitude that some people in these forums insist on adopting. This isn't some battlefield we are on. I'm not at war against a "Sony" person, or a "Nook" person, simply because I own a Kindle. If I browse the Sony sub-forum and see an interesting topic, I shouldn't feel scared or awkward about posting -- but a lot of users make people feel that way. They draw this line in the sand and pretty much say: Don't violate my territory! Some folks act like these forums are some game of survival, and we're divided into opposite camps and dare not mingle with the enemy. Seriously people, I shouldn't have to scale the Great Wall of Ebook to take a risky peek at the other side.

01-03-2011, 08:40 PM	#14414
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,922 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6	Well the OS wars are really just religious wars. A bit like the DRM/pirate/Freedom of speech wars....

01-03-2011, 08:42 PM	#14415
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,922 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6	Hey I just noticed I went over 17K posted.....so this is a rant! I missed it! Coulda had a celebration in the milestones thread! Dang!