Metadata and series

paulfiera · 12-30-2010, 08:03 AM

It looks like when fetching a book's metadata, the series and series index are not being populated.

I can't remember if this has always been the standard behaviour. I don't think I have entered manually all the series and series index.

DoctorOhh · 12-30-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by paulfiera

It looks like when fetching a book's metadata, the series and series index are not being populated.

I can't remember if this has always been the standard behaviour. I don't think I have entered manually all the series and series index.

Three nights ago series and series index were downloading during bulk metadata download fine, Last night it wasn't. I suspect librarything or wherever the series data is obtained.

paulfiera · 12-30-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dwanthny

Three nights ago series and series index were downloading during bulk metadata download fine, Last night it wasn't. I suspect librarything or wherever the series data is obtained.

Thanks, dwanthny.

I just couldn't believe I had entered about 600 series and indices manually.

theducks · 12-30-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by paulfiera

Thanks, dwanthny.

I just couldn't believe I had entered about 600 series and indices manually.

I can

Because I have done so (times 2)

BTW My index- series names don't always agree with the ones downloaded (when it happens) or imported.

(even the publisher can change a 'Series' name mid-series),.
That said, the auto Series info is more useful than 'nothing'. I have been cataloging my DT Library with the 'Import (from clipboard) by ISBN" feature and was pleased that a majority of the Meta-data did fill.I use the Tag Browser-Rename to fix /standardize most variations, quickly

paulfiera · 12-30-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by theducks

BTW My index- series names don't always agree with the ones downloaded (when it happens) or imported.

Sure, but sometimes it does, and it saves you a lot of searching Amazon and typing.

I wish they - whoever the culprit might be - fix the issue.

paulfiera · 12-30-2010, 01:24 PM

Just to add that, in my case, the series fetched from metadata have been 99% right. Just to name a couple:

James Lee Burke - Dave Robicheaux series - perfectly matched.

James Ellroy - L. A. Quartet and Underworld USA Trilogy - perfectly matched.

theducks · 12-30-2010, 01:26 PM

Speaking of Series (Index).

I saw an odd thing
I added a book to a series. The previous Index was 8.5 (a short story between full books), the new index became 9.5. Should this be the next Integer (9.0)

paulfiera · 12-30-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by theducks

Speaking of Series (Index).

I saw an odd thing
I added a book to a series. The previous Index was 8.5 (a short story between full books), the new index became 9.5. Should this be the next Integer (9.0)

It probably depends on your settings in...

Code:

# The algorithm used to assign a new book in an existing series a series number.
# New series numbers assigned using this tweak are always integer values, except
# if a constant non-integer is specified.
# Possible values are:
# next - First available integer larger than the largest existing number
# first_free - First available integer larger than 0
# next_free - First available integer larger than the smallest existing number
# last_free - First available integer smaller than the largest existing number
#             Return largest existing + 1 if no free number is found
# const - Assign the number 1 always
# a number - Assign that number always. The number is not in quotes. Note that
#            0.0 can be used here.
# Examples:
# series_index_auto_increment = 'next'
# series_index_auto_increment = 'next_free'
# series_index_auto_increment = 16.5
series_index_auto_increment = 'next'

Try with "next_free"

Otherwise, Kovid's your friend

theducks · 12-30-2010, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulfiera

It probably depends on your settings in...

Code:

# The algorithm used to assign a new book in an existing series a series number.
# New series numbers assigned using this tweak are always integer values, except
# if a constant non-integer is specified.
# Possible values are:
# next - First available integer larger than the largest existing number
# first_free - First available integer larger than 0
# next_free - First available integer larger than the smallest existing number
# last_free - First available integer smaller than the largest existing number
#             Return largest existing + 1 if no free number is found
# const - Assign the number 1 always
# a number - Assign that number always. The number is not in quotes. Note that
#            0.0 can be used here.
# Examples:
# series_index_auto_increment = 'next'
# series_index_auto_increment = 'next_free'
# series_index_auto_increment = 16.5
series_index_auto_increment = 'next'

Try with "next_free"

Otherwise, Kovid's your friend

More options than I had Pasted

Devs
Could we get a REV Date in the Beginning of the comments when a Tweak gets updated?

Code:

# V12/30/2010 The algorithm used to assign a new book in an existing series a series number.

I just flew by that one...Already Got it!

paulfiera · 01-01-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dwanthny

Three nights ago series and series index were downloading during bulk metadata download fine, Last night it wasn't. I suspect librarything or wherever the series data is obtained.

Has anybody figured out where the glitch is?

And a Happy New Year !!!

user_none · 01-01-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by paulfiera

Has anybody figured out where the glitch is?

If you didn't update calibre to a new version then it's an issue with the metadata source and there isn't anything that can be done. Due to the number of people getting ebook reader for the holidays I'm going to assume it's due to sites like librarything being a bit overloaded.

paulfiera · 01-01-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by user_none

If you didn't update calibre to a new version then it's an issue with the metadata source and there isn't anything that can be done. Due to the number of people getting ebook reader for the holidays I'm going to assume it's due to sites like librarything being a bit overloaded.

Many thanks, user_none. I'm using the latest version - 0.7.35.

You are probably right about the site being overloaded.

God, I miss that feature.

paulfiera · 01-01-2011, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by user_none

If you didn't update calibre to a new version then it's an issue with the metadata source and there isn't anything that can be done. Due to the number of people getting ebook reader for the holidays I'm going to assume it's due to sites like librarything being a bit overloaded.

user_none, do you have the possibility of checking if calibre is making the right query to librarything and parsing the results correctly?

This page shows the right series and the right series number, but when I get the metadata for this book, both fields remain blank.

I can see from librarything's REST example that they return the series name.

user_none · 01-01-2011, 02:57 PM

LibraryThing is blocking calibre. However, it looks unintentional.

I've attached a screen shot of what the LibraryThing plugin is returning. I don't think the blocking is intentional because I can access the site in Chrome and I'm not even in the same state as the Sterling Heights High School.

kovidgoyal · 01-01-2011, 03:00 PM

LT is doing some user agent sniffing, I have no idea what they hope to achieve with that. In any case, I updated the user agent calibre sends to a more modern browser and that seems to have fixed it, try 0.7.36

12-30-2010, 08:03 AM	#1
paulfiera Addict Posts: 387 Karma: 3102 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: EU Device: Kobo Aura ONE, Kobo Libra H20	Metadata and series It looks like when fetching a book's metadata, the series and series index are not being populated. I can't remember if this has always been the standard behaviour. I don't think I have entered manually all the series and series index.

01-01-2011, 02:57 PM	#14
user_none Sigil & calibre developer Posts: 2,487 Karma: 1063785 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida, USA Device: Nook STR	LibraryThing is blocking calibre. However, it looks unintentional. I've attached a screen shot of what the LibraryThing plugin is returning. I don't think the blocking is intentional because I can access the site in Chrome and I'm not even in the same state as the Sterling Heights High School. Attached Thumbnails

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paulfiera Addict Posts: 387 Karma: 3102 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: EU Device: Kobo Aura ONE, Kobo Libra H20	Just to add that, in my case, the series fetched from metadata have been 99% right. Just to name a couple: James Lee Burke - Dave Robicheaux series - perfectly matched. James Ellroy - L. A. Quartet and Underworld USA Trilogy - perfectly matched.

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theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,047 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	Speaking of Series (Index). I saw an odd thing I added a book to a series. The previous Index was 8.5 (a short story between full books), the new index became 9.5. Should this be the next Integer (9.0)

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kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,345 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	LT is doing some user agent sniffing, I have no idea what they hope to achieve with that. In any case, I updated the user agent calibre sends to a more modern browser and that seems to have fixed it, try 0.7.36