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From what little I have read, and it is very little, Colorado does not have a similar law. I would be very surprised if he is extradited to Florida.
This strikes me as a stupid move. The book and author were no longer in the news. All this does is give the idiot more face time and a probable lawsuit against someone or the State of Florida. |
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Or should we put MGM bosses in jail just because they produce James Bond movies which feature killing people and even raping some women by 007 itself (by "raping" i mean european "raping", the crime Julian Assange was accused of, you know - if you sleep with one just some days later after you slept with other, then it is a rape, despite whether there was mutual agreement or not). |
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Oh, great. First you start condemning someone to death just because they wrote something that insults you; then you start condemning someone just because they defend the first person, etc. USA is the heart of freedom, i see.
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I remember several years ago when a guy in Milpitas, CA had a computer bulletin board (this was 1991) and someone from Tennessee complained to the U.S. Postmaster about the porn (not child porn but just plain old porn). The guy was arrested and extradited to Tennessee where he was found guilty of distributing obsene material and was sentenced to prison. He also lost his appeal in 1996. The material was not considered obsene in CA but was in TN, so there is precedent for one state having different standards than another. I still don't think it is likely, but people rightly hate pedophiles so this guy could see some prison time. Here is the prior case.
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Asked if he had engaged in sexual acts with children as an adult, Greaves first answered “could have,” before stating flatly that he had not engaged in such illegal conduct. Source |
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Can we please not loose sight of the fact that this guy is pure sleaze?
You aren't defending someone's right to speak against a government. You aren't defending someone's right to speak against a race or religion. You aren't defending someone's right to speak an ideology. These are all permitted in some other societies and some other cultures. You ARE defending someone's right to abuse children. This is permitted nowhere. "Free Speech" is a freedom. "Freedom" implies 'responsibility.' Let's be responsible. Stitchawl Last edited by Stitchawl; 12-20-2010 at 06:32 PM. |
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![]() But... try using that argument after you yell "Fire" in a crowded theater, or shout "Bomb" in an airport. By today's laws, Freedom of Speech is very much dependent upon topic. Stitchawl |
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Certain specific actions that might otherwise be free speech are specifically outlined as breaking OTHER laws. Things like slander and libel. As I said above I may not agree with what this book is about but provided it is legal to publish I will defend it with my life because not to is to throw away everything we hold dear as Citizens of the U.S.A. Nor does my defense of this freedom of speech have anything to do with supporting child abuse or molestation. No more than my defense of authors rights to publish books on how to make bombs or guns means I support activities that would be illegal. It's a damn slippery slope when we start banning books and speech and freedom and I will not be a part of it. |
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I'm not in favor of shaky trumped up charges where everybody turns their back and pretends it doesn't matter that he actually hasn't broken any laws because we all "know" he's despicable scum. The Police and the Prosecutors need to do their jobs and find valid legal grounds to arrest him on. That's all I'm asking. |
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