Straaaaaange happenings

crutledge · 12-14-2010, 01:37 PM

I have been chasing this anomoly for a while. Sigil is adding stuff to image calls. Epub and MOBI (via kindlegen) display fine. When the epub is converted to LRF, the Frontpiece does not display.

Here's what I have.

HTML titlepage call:

Code:

<h2 title="TITLE PAGE"><IMG title=  alt=  src="Images/TitlePage.jpg"></h2>

Sigil titlepage call:

Code:

<h2 id="heading_id_2" title="TITLE PAGE"><img alt="" src="../Images/TitlePage.jpg" title="alt=" /></h2>

HTML frontpiece call:

Code:

<h2 title=
  "FRONTPIECE: &quot;I GOT A CALL—A LAND CALL THAT I HAD TO ANSWER.&quot;">
  <img title="" alt='"I GOT A CALL—A LAND CALL THAT I HAD TO ANSWER."' src=
  "Over%20Paradise%20Ridge_files/image1.jpg" /></h2>

Sigil frontpiece call:

Code:

  <h2 title="FRONTPIECE: &quot;I GOT A CALL—A LAND CALL THAT I HAD TO ANSWER.&quot;"><img alt="&quot;I GOT A CALL—A LAND CALL THAT I HAD TO ANSWER.&quot;" src="../Images/image1.jpg" title="" /></h2>

I dont seem to be able to get rid of the title="alt=" in the code.

The html, epub, and LRF files are contained in the attached zip file.
Would you set me straignt?
Charlie

KevinH · 12-14-2010, 01:52 PM

Hi,

Your original html is simply not correct. You specified a title= and alt= in the img tag but never provided either the title text or the alt text. The code that parses that bad html gets confused and ends up thinking that "alt=" is the title you did not specify.

Solution: fix your html before loading it into Sigil.

title="" alt=""

is one way to fix this or better yet, remove the title= completely and put some valid alt="a text description of the image here".

The latter is important for reading software for the blind and others who can not actually see the image.

Toxaris · 12-14-2010, 01:52 PM

Remove the alt= in the HTML code. Just do alt="" or alt="any text" and it should work. In you're second example you used double quotes inside single quotes. That's why the inner quotes are translated to ""xxxx"".

theducks · 12-14-2010, 03:13 PM

my 2cents
Heading_id comes from Sigils TOC build
Alt="" (empty string) is not a good HTML practice.
The Alt tag is used by Accessibility compliant" devices in lieu of pictures.
you should describe the image called "Book cover", "M" (for a Initial Capital "M" image" ...
I believe Flightcrew squawks about these tags Missing

crutledge · 12-14-2010, 04:48 PM

I feel like a dunce.

Thanks a lot, Gentlemen and/or Ladies.

Jellby · 12-15-2010, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Alt="" (empty string) is not a good HTML practice.
The Alt tag is used by Accessibility compliant" devices in lieu of pictures.
you should describe the image called "Book cover", "M" (for a Initial Capital "M" image" ...

An empty "alt" is OK whenever an image is purely ornamental or even if there is already a descriptive caption for the image: in these cases you wouldn't want a text-to-speech program to "read" anything instead of the image, for instance.

crutledge · 12-16-2010, 06:18 PM

What's wrong with this call? Works fine in ePub and MOBI but not in LRF generated by Calibre from the ePub.

Code:

<h2 id="heading_id_2" title="FRONTPIECE: &quot;You don't need another vine,&quot; I answered mutinously">
<img 
alt="&quot;You don't need another vine&quot;, I answered mutinously." src="../Images/image01.jpg" 
title="&quot;You don't need another vine,&quot; I answered mutinously." /></h2>

Toxaris · 12-17-2010, 05:15 PM

Looks fine, but I think the LRF doesn't like the " in the text.

crutledge · 12-18-2010, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxaris

Looks fine, but I think the LRF doesn't like the " in the text.

You may well be correct. I removed the alt and title and LRF displays the image.

12-14-2010, 01:37 PM	#1
crutledge eBook FANatic Posts: 18,301 Karma: 16078357 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Alabama, USA Device: HP ipac RX5915 Wife's Kindle	Straaaaaange happenings I have been chasing this anomoly for a while. Sigil is adding stuff to image calls. Epub and MOBI (via kindlegen) display fine. When the epub is converted to LRF, the Frontpiece does not display. Here's what I have. HTML titlepage call: Code: <h2 title="TITLE PAGE"><IMG title= alt= src="Images/TitlePage.jpg"></h2> Sigil titlepage call: Code: <h2 id="heading_id_2" title="TITLE PAGE"><img alt="" src="../Images/TitlePage.jpg" title="alt=" /></h2> HTML frontpiece call: Code: <h2 title= "FRONTPIECE: "I GOT A CALL—A LAND CALL THAT I HAD TO ANSWER.""> <img title="" alt='"I GOT A CALL—A LAND CALL THAT I HAD TO ANSWER."' src= "Over%20Paradise%20Ridge_files/image1.jpg" /></h2> Sigil frontpiece call: Code: <h2 title="FRONTPIECE: "I GOT A CALL—A LAND CALL THAT I HAD TO ANSWER.""><img alt=""I GOT A CALL—A LAND CALL THAT I HAD TO ANSWER."" src="../Images/image1.jpg" title="" /></h2> I dont seem to be able to get rid of the title="alt=" in the code. The html, epub, and LRF files are contained in the attached zip file. Would you set me straignt? Charlie

12-14-2010, 04:48 PM	#5
crutledge eBook FANatic Posts: 18,301 Karma: 16078357 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Alabama, USA Device: HP ipac RX5915 Wife's Kindle	WoW!!! I feel like a dunce. Thanks a lot, Gentlemen and/or Ladies.

12-16-2010, 06:18 PM	#7
crutledge eBook FANatic Posts: 18,301 Karma: 16078357 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Alabama, USA Device: HP ipac RX5915 Wife's Kindle	More strange happenings What's wrong with this call? Works fine in ePub and MOBI but not in LRF generated by Calibre from the ePub. Code: <h2 id="heading_id_2" title="FRONTPIECE: "You don't need another vine," I answered mutinously"> <img alt=""You don't need another vine", I answered mutinously." src="../Images/image01.jpg" title=""You don't need another vine," I answered mutinously." /></h2>

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12-14-2010, 01:52 PM	#2
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,439 Karma: 5703082 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Hi, Your original html is simply not correct. You specified a title= and alt= in the img tag but never provided either the title text or the alt text. The code that parses that bad html gets confused and ends up thinking that "alt=" is the title you did not specify. Solution: fix your html before loading it into Sigil. title="" alt="" is one way to fix this or better yet, remove the title= completely and put some valid alt="a text description of the image here". The latter is important for reading software for the blind and others who can not actually see the image.

12-14-2010, 01:52 PM	#3
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	Remove the alt= in the HTML code. Just do alt="" or alt="any text" and it should work. In you're second example you used double quotes inside single quotes. That's why the inner quotes are translated to ""xxxx"".

12-14-2010, 03:13 PM	#4
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 30,888 Karma: 59840450 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	my 2cents Heading_id comes from Sigils TOC build Alt="" (empty string) is not a good HTML practice. The Alt tag is used by Accessibility compliant" devices in lieu of pictures. you should describe the image called "Book cover", "M" (for a Initial Capital "M" image" ... I believe Flightcrew squawks about these tags Missing

12-17-2010, 05:15 PM	#8
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	Looks fine, but I think the LRF doesn't like the " in the text.