The Vent and Rant Thread

[Bilbo1967]

Originally Posted by happy_terd

I hold the door for anyone who happens to be 1-3 seconds behind me.

Me too.

There should be a word or phrase for that period of time or distance a person is behind you when you open a door whereby it is just too long to comfortably hold the door open and wait for them, and just too short to allow the door to close without appearing rude

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

Me too.

There should be a word or phrase for that period of time or distance a person is behind you when you open a door whereby it is just too long to comfortably hold the door open and wait for them, and just too short to allow the door to close without appearing rude

Yes we need a word or description of that..... "The Cone of Rudeness"

[Pookeysgirl]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

I'm about as independent and liberated as they come, and I still appreciate and thank someone that opens doors for me. I also appreciate going out with a man who holds a chair for me. he is honoring ME!

Exactly! I haven't seen any women get defensive on a door being held open for them as far as I can remember, but there's really no need to get upset about it when it happens. I bet if that same person let the door slam in her face she would think he was rude.

I teach both my boys to let a lady go before them ALWAYS. They hold doors open for everyone. I don't even have to remind them anymore. Most of the time women are very thankful and think it's the cutest thing.

[bjones6416]

Originally Posted by Pookeysgirl

Exactly! I haven't seen any women get defensive on a door being held open for them as far as I can remember, but there's really no need to get upset about it when it happens. I bet if that same person let the door slam in her face she would think he was rude.

I teach both my boys to let a lady go before them ALWAYS. They hold doors open for everyone. I don't even have to remind them anymore. Most of the time women are very thankful and think it's the cutest thing.

See, that's exactly what I was saying before about the rude guys who didn't help you -- their mama didn't raise them right!

[Pookeysgirl]

Originally Posted by bjones6416

See, that's exactly what I was saying before about the rude guys who didn't help you -- their mama didn't raise them right!

[TheKindleWorm]

It's amazing how many people will watch me struggle to open a shop door and enter with a pushchair - very people bother to help and in fact one old lady barged in front of me yesterday (I think she was desperate to get in the long queue) and shut the post office door in my face!

Out of the people who do actually help, I have to say most of them are young men. No idea why but grateful that some people do have manners at least. Hubby was definitely brought up well and is always opening doors for others.

[Stitchawl]

Originally Posted by bjones6416

See, that's exactly what I was saying before about the rude guys who didn't help you -- their mama didn't raise them right!

It's the other way around here! It was never a common practice to hold doors for people in old Japan. It's wasn't a male/female thing. It's a 'strangers are enemies,' idea of Confucian ideology. It's only the younger folks who are doing it now. Today's younger people have learned the custom from TV and movies, while the old folks let the door slam on each other.


Stitchawl

[Bilbo1967]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Yes we need a word or description of that..... "The Cone of Rudeness"

Truly inspired!

I am going to use that from now on.

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by Rumpelteazer

I don't think it's that, at least not where I live, it's just the way people behave towards each other. I had a customer last Saturday who got mad because I let him wait half a minute longer so I could open the door for a woman with a buggy who I just helped. I also notice that a lot of shop assistants and cashiers are very surprised when I thank them for helping me and wishing them a nice day/weekend/holidays. But then again it isn't surprising, seeing how many of my own customers don't have the decency to say "hello" back when I greet them before asking them if I can help them.

I always thank servers and cashiers and such. I was there at one time. Many times when I thank a server for bringing me a refil, or placing my dinner in front of me and I say "thank-you" they seem surprised. So, I guess not many people do it.

As far as "opening doors" for women or people in general. I think there is a different between holding the door open for someone behind you, which I always do and am surprised when people in front of me don't do it, and opening a door and letting someone in before you. Although I have had people on the way out of a place as I am going in hold the door open for me. I always try to do that also.

BOb

[LCF]

It's getting tricky, when there are two door with about 3-5 meters in between.
You either have to run like crazy, or just let the person open the one door for itself (then you switch places).
It all gets easier, if the other person hasn't been raised well, the you have plenty of time going to the second door, while the person patiently waits for you to open it...

[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by SameOldStory

I know, I know. I should switch to Linux. Linux has no viruses.

Linux has exploits. They are much rarer.

The question I'd ask is how your A/V and firewall got changed when you didn't do it. That's nasty.

I tried to help a friend who got bit, and the underlying problem turned out to be a rootkit, with the solution being new machine. (She was planning to upgrade anyway, just not as soon.) She's pretty savvy, but went to Europe, and her cat sitter apparently used her machine to visit places he shouldn't have gone to while she was away, and got her machine infected with something.

I run Win XP SP3 here, with auto-update turned on so it's fully patched.

Symantec Corporate handles A/V, but seldom finds anything (and the last things it did find were false positives generated by ancient MS-DOS programs.)

There are three firewalls: a hardware firewall in my router, Windows firewall, since it doesn't conflict with anything, and the last freeware edition of the old Sygate Personal Firewall (which was bought and killed off by Symantec), which has the best interface I've seen in a firewall. It gets knocked for failing "leak tests", but those all presume you've been compromised by something that will try to turn off your defenses and phone home. I find it easier to not get compromised.

I have Malware Bytes and a few other things as well, but they never find anything either.

And I use Firefox with the NoScript add-on, that blocks scripting unless the site is in a whitelist, so I largely thumb my nose at web based exploits.

It's amazing how many people have an unthinking, irrational hated of Microsoft.

Sometimes it's not irrational and unthinking.

MS gets slammed in two different areas: crappy code and business practices.

Most of the crappy code complaints I'm philosophical about. When you begin on 16 bit micros with 1MB of total address space and a single tasking OS, and progress to 32 bit (and now 64 bit) machines with gigabytes of address space and a full multi-tasking OS, and attempt to retain some level of backward compatibility, you get unavoidable glitches.

I'm also not bothered by the continual flow of security patches. Most of what they patch isn't bad code: it's code written when developers never dreamed that malicious folks would do things like deliberately try to overflow a buffer to cause chaos. "Never trust your data" is a lesson everyone had to learn the hard way. My only real complaint is that MS should have emphasized security and started issuing patches rather earlier than they did.

I have Ubuntu Linux here, and get regular security updates for it, too. The main difference is that I don't worry if I don't apply an update immediately, because the circumstances under which the flaw the patch fixes can bite tend to be rare, and not things I'll normally encounter.

I am unhappy about business practices. Windows Vista is a case in point. The single biggest problem was that it was stuffed down the market's throat too early. It needed a newer generation of hardware to run acceptably, and a lot of what was in the pipeline when it was released wasn't up to the task.

It didn't get released because the market needed it: it was released because MS wanted to retire XP and create a new revenue stream.

To its credit, Windows 7 seems to have polished the rough edges, and the machines is is being bundled with ca run it effectively.

In fact it looks like Apple is getting big enough to draw that kind of knee jerk reaction too.

Well, it's popular enough to draw attention, so it's no longer bulletproof.

And Apple's "Have it our way!" attitude can grate. Apple has always positioned itself as aiming at the non-technical user, and trying to reduce what the user has to know to use the machine. It does so fairly well, but if you are a technical user and want to pop the hood and fiddle, Apple can get in your way.

It's amazing how some really smart people can be so childish and stupid.

They may not be as smart as you think they are.
______
Dennis

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by Freeshadow

welcome same for me here, I keep doors open when other people follow; regardless of their sex and age, as well as thank for this helpful politenes, especially since using a walking stick Isometimes don't have a free hand. Happened to me too being thanked with a sneered "I can do that myself" - by a woman.

altough the most strange and humiliating thing ever happened to me was a reaction to a compliment - (for those no more familiar with this art: it is not a sexually tainted comment or a dumb pickup line) the adressed one halted and simply said:
"I won't sleep with you." I mean - WTF?
*sigh* oh tempora oh mores.

I remember once being told by a woman to whom I'd given no provocation that she wouldn't sleep with me. I replied, "That hurt my feelings. I thought you'd sleep with anybody."

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by happy_terd

I hold the door for anyone who happens to be 1-3 seconds behind me.

Same here, male or female. It just seem the polite thing to do.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I remember once being told by a woman to whom I'd given no provocation that she wouldn't sleep with me. I replied, "That hurt my feelings. I thought you'd sleep with anybody."

Oh, that's bad!

[Pookeysgirl]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I remember once being told by a woman to whom I'd given no provocation that she wouldn't sleep with me. I replied, "That hurt my feelings. I thought you'd sleep with anybody."

I wish I could've seen the look on her face