Non-english languages On Sony PRS-505

lecchu · 10-15-2007, 08:51 AM

Hello
Sorry - maybe my question is very easy - but I can't find answer.

I write from Poland. My language (and polish ebooks) has non-english characters. Can I read non-english ebooks with special characters on Sony PRS-505 - in *.txt files on best (or pdf) ?

Sorry for my english

Lecchu

HarryT · 10-15-2007, 08:57 AM

Yes, the Sony Reader certainly supports the accented characters used in Polish.

igorsk · 10-15-2007, 10:41 AM

I'm afraid you're wrong, Harry. The stock fonts on the Reader support Western diacritics and some of the Polish ones, but definitely not all of them.
Here's a little sample.

Top two lines are in Arial, bottom two are in Swiss721 BT.

kovidgoyal · 10-15-2007, 10:50 AM

If you embed fonts in either the PDF or LRF files, you can.

HarryT · 10-15-2007, 12:18 PM

My apologies - I stand corrected. It certainly has the accents required to support western European languages.

rwolnicki · 12-11-2007, 06:33 PM

Hi,
I have exactly the same problem: polish fonts in PRS-505. I know how to achieve goal with pdf files, but how do it with lrf format? I am using Book Designer 4.0, update 2007-07-30). Book looks perfectly polish inside Book Designer but, well, after coversion, inside eBook Library or sony reader truly do not. Could somobody help me, please?

Jeeves · 12-11-2007, 07:35 PM

Yes, guys, does somebody know something about that? Forget pdf files. Let's talk about the lrf. Is it possible and how?
Come on igorsk, I know you know how to do it. I'm talking about Cyrillic characters and fonts.
Let's say I don't want to flash my 505, I just want to read cyrylic texts. When you format them in BD or Libris and view'em IN these programs - everything is OK. But when you transfer them in the reader - the things don't work the same way.
So I guess I/We need special cyrilic font /like Tmscyr or else/. Is it possible to insert cyrilic font in 505? OR simply just how can you read cyrilic /or else/ book in lrf /or rtf/txt/ format on your 505?

JSWolf · 12-11-2007, 07:43 PM

Jeeves, what you can try to do is embed a font that has the characters you want and see if that works. You can try it with both Book Designer and Libprs500's converters.

Jabberwock · 12-11-2007, 08:53 PM

I do not know about 505, but I have been using embedded Polish fonts on 500 without any problems (I do not like the default ones too much).

You just have to add the fonts in the "Make eBooks/Sony Reader/styles/external fonts, then define your styles with them.

The embedded fonts supposedly slow down the page turns, but I do not see it as a big problem. The nicer fonts definitely make up for that.

By the way, it is hard to believe that in the 21st century they have designed a device without Unicode support. This is a real showstopper in multilanguage texts - for example in a Polish book with Spanish or French quotes the characters are badly messed up...

porkupan · 12-11-2007, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabberwock

By the way, it is hard to believe that in the 21st century they have designed a device without Unicode support. This is a real showstopper in multilanguage texts - for example in a Polish book with Spanish or French quotes the characters are badly messed up...

I just want to correct this statement. In fact, the Sony Reader does have Unicode support, it just doesn't have full Unicode fonts. If you have a 500, you can install the "Cyrillic" fonts, and they do have the full Eastern European sets in them, I believe (not positive, but almost).

Whether you wish to bother with installing updates to your device for native fonts support, or you prefer to read books with embedded fonts (which usually page much slower) is totally up to you, of course.

Alexander Turcic · 12-11-2007, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeeves

Come on igorsk, I know you know how to do it. I'm talking about Cyrillic characters and fonts.

I think igor bricked his 505 is waiting for Sony to release the first firmware upgrade...

xxueyi · 12-12-2007, 01:00 AM

You can convert it to PDF then change to image-lrf by using "pdflrf"
It support every languages in the world
-
Before 505's first firmware upgrade, maybe it's the best way for other languages.

rwolnicki · 12-12-2007, 01:34 PM

Thanks xxueyi for the hint with pdf -> lrf converter, I downloaded it and I will try it, but it is not ultimate solution

Firstly one conversion more ( most of books I have in txt/rtf/doc), secondly I really doubt that that quality will be as good as txt -> lrf conversion. I only want lrf because of quality not because I prefer three letters "lrf" above "pdf" ;-) But I will see.
Anyway I want direct solution not workaround at the end.
Jabberwock, I've tried already to play with styles ("Make eBooks/Sony Reader/styles/external fonts), and I've tried once again a moment ago, still nothing. I embedded Arial, Arial CE, Times New Roman, Times New Roman CE etc. Which font is correct for polish users? If none from default set, how to load a new correct one (maybe a link to them)? I have a possibility only to chose between a few fonts inside Book Designer. In Book Designer also is an option Configuration/Fonts but it has no impact on possible choices in conversion...

Jabberwock · 12-12-2007, 01:48 PM

Oops... I've forgotten to add: you have to set the correct language (i.e. Polish) in the Book Designer - Configuration\Settings\Book language.

rwolnicki · 12-12-2007, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabberwock

Oops... I've forgotten to add: you have to set the correct language (i.e. Polish) in the Book Designer - Configuration\Settings\Book language.

I did it at the beggining.
Also somebody wrote somewhere

that book encoding (File/book encoding) should be in Unicode (UTF-8). I've also changed it in a desperation. Doesn't work also.

10-15-2007, 08:51 AM	#1
lecchu Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: n/d	Non-english languages On Sony PRS-505 Hello Sorry - maybe my question is very easy - but I can't find answer. I write from Poland. My language (and polish ebooks) has non-english characters. Can I read non-english ebooks with special characters on Sony PRS-505 - in *.txt files on best (or pdf) ? Sorry for my english Lecchu

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10-15-2007, 08:57 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Yes, the Sony Reader certainly supports the accented characters used in Polish.

10-15-2007, 10:41 AM	#3
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	I'm afraid you're wrong, Harry. The stock fonts on the Reader support Western diacritics and some of the Polish ones, but definitely not all of them. Here's a little sample. Top two lines are in Arial, bottom two are in Swiss721 BT.

10-15-2007, 10:50 AM	#4
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,347 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	If you embed fonts in either the PDF or LRF files, you can.

10-15-2007, 12:18 PM	#5
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	My apologies - I stand corrected. It certainly has the accents required to support western European languages.

12-11-2007, 06:33 PM	#6
rwolnicki Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Sony Reader PRS-505	Hi, I have exactly the same problem: polish fonts in PRS-505. I know how to achieve goal with pdf files, but how do it with lrf format? I am using Book Designer 4.0, update 2007-07-30). Book looks perfectly polish inside Book Designer but, well, after coversion, inside eBook Library or sony reader truly do not. Could somobody help me, please?

12-11-2007, 07:35 PM	#7
Jeeves Member Posts: 19 Karma: 92 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wild West, Canada Device: PRS 505	Yes, guys, does somebody know something about that? Forget pdf files. Let's talk about the lrf. Is it possible and how? Come on igorsk, I know you know how to do it. I'm talking about Cyrillic characters and fonts. Let's say I don't want to flash my 505, I just want to read cyrylic texts. When you format them in BD or Libris and view'em IN these programs - everything is OK. But when you transfer them in the reader - the things don't work the same way. So I guess I/We need special cyrilic font /like Tmscyr or else/. Is it possible to insert cyrilic font in 505? OR simply just how can you read cyrilic /or else/ book in lrf /or rtf/txt/ format on your 505?

12-11-2007, 07:43 PM	#8
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,750 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Jeeves, what you can try to do is embed a font that has the characters you want and see if that works. You can try it with both Book Designer and Libprs500's converters.

12-11-2007, 08:53 PM	#9
Jabberwock Member Posts: 16 Karma: 28 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Sony Reader	I do not know about 505, but I have been using embedded Polish fonts on 500 without any problems (I do not like the default ones too much). You just have to add the fonts in the "Make eBooks/Sony Reader/styles/external fonts, then define your styles with them. The embedded fonts supposedly slow down the page turns, but I do not see it as a big problem. The nicer fonts definitely make up for that. By the way, it is hard to believe that in the 21st century they have designed a device without Unicode support. This is a real showstopper in multilanguage texts - for example in a Polish book with Spanish or French quotes the characters are badly messed up...

12-12-2007, 01:00 AM	#12
xxueyi Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: SONY PRS-500	You can convert it to PDF then change to image-lrf by using "pdflrf" It support every languages in the world - Before 505's first firmware upgrade, maybe it's the best way for other languages.

12-12-2007, 01:34 PM	#13
rwolnicki Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Sony Reader PRS-505	Thanks xxueyi for the hint with pdf -> lrf converter, I downloaded it and I will try it, but it is not ultimate solution Firstly one conversion more ( most of books I have in txt/rtf/doc), secondly I really doubt that that quality will be as good as txt -> lrf conversion. I only want lrf because of quality not because I prefer three letters "lrf" above "pdf" ;-) But I will see. Anyway I want direct solution not workaround at the end. Jabberwock, I've tried already to play with styles ("Make eBooks/Sony Reader/styles/external fonts), and I've tried once again a moment ago, still nothing. I embedded Arial, Arial CE, Times New Roman, Times New Roman CE etc. Which font is correct for polish users? If none from default set, how to load a new correct one (maybe a link to them)? I have a possibility only to chose between a few fonts inside Book Designer. In Book Designer also is an option Configuration/Fonts but it has no impact on possible choices in conversion...

12-12-2007, 01:48 PM	#14
Jabberwock Member Posts: 16 Karma: 28 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Sony Reader	Oops... I've forgotten to add: you have to set the correct language (i.e. Polish) in the Book Designer - Configuration\Settings\Book language.