Does Kindle accept Mobi book format purchased from other stores? - Page 4

erictoma · 12-11-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyR

I'm glad that non-Kindle owners are so happy with their e-readers, but I don't understand why they are trolling the Kindle forum...

Anyway, personally, I've bought more books for my Kindle from Baen and Fictionwise than Amazon itself. Is it Amazon's fault that other bookstores have chosen to use Adobe DRM?

If Amazon really wanted to lock people in, they could have made the Kindle only read files from Amazon, period.

They are trolling here to save newbies from falling in the amazon trap.

what are you doing here?

jocampo · 12-11-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Catlady

I don't understand why they object so strenuously to the idea that they're "locked in." You're a lot more locked in than I am with my device that reads epubs.

The "locked in" statement is more a subjective thing than anything else. There are lot of online stores, not Amazon, where Kindle users can buy MOBI books for their devices.

Your ability to find books depends of what you like and what you chose. For instance: I used to have a Nook but B&N does not have a good collection of computer books or programming so in real world, being able to read an epub book means nothing to me, because I can't read or buy what I need and like.

On the other hand, Amazon is selling all those computer books that I can't find at B&N. So, I sold my Nook and bought a Kindle, actually two: Kindle DXG and Kindle 3.

I am not interested on lending epub from any public library. I don't need it, don't want it, and like me there are lot of more people with same opinion. That does not mean is not yours or the same for those who like or really lend from public libraries, but again it is more a subjective thing than something related with the azw or epub format itself.

erictoma · 12-11-2010, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

But why do you want to push these heath books that nobody here wants or even cares about? You are just wasting our time.

Since when Larry king is a surgeon ?

May be you should read something else.

erictoma · 12-11-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jocampo

The "locked in" statement is more a subjective thing than anything else. There are lot of online stores, not Amazon, where Kindle users can buy MOBI books for their devices.

Your ability to find books depends of what you like and what you chose. For instance: I used to have a Nook but B&N does not have a good collection of computer books or programming so in real world, being able to read an epub book means nothing to me, because I can't read or buy what I need and like.

On the other hand, Amazon is selling all those computer books that I can't find at B&N. So, I sold my Nook and bought a Kindle, actually two: Kindle DXG and Kindle 3.

I am not interested on lending epub from any public library. I don't need it, don't want it, and like me there are lot of more people with same opinion. That does not mean is not yours or the same for those who like or really lend from public libraries, but again it is more a subjective thing than something related with the azw or epub format itself.

I remind again there are thousands of titles missing in kindle store.

SCION · 12-11-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Admit it, abookreader... you're one of those dirty 'fiction' readers, aren't you?
I. Am. Appalled.

jocampo · 12-11-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by erictoma

I remind again there are thousands of titles missing in kindle store.

Really? can you please show me which SQL query or report you used for that? Please post the article so all people here can learn from you.

erictoma · 12-11-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jocampo

Really? can you please show me which SQL query or report you used for that? Please post the article so all people here can learn from you.

can you find those titles ?? in your kindle store?

Dark Deception: Discover the Truths About the Benefits of Sunlight Exposure
Written by Dr Joseph Mercola, Joseph Herman, Jeffry

Can you find the other Dr Joseph Mercola's ebooks ?

1- Prostatitis: The 60-Day Cure - eBook 21.95 US $

2 -Take Control of your Health eBook 19.97 US $

3-Prostate Health in 90 Days - eBook 16.97 US $

FF2 · 12-11-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Catlady

Don't all these sites also offer epubs and pdfs that are readable on NON-Kindle devices? Plus the NON-Kindle user can go to BN, Borders, Kobo, and the good old public library AS WELL?

I'm glad that Kindle users are happy with their Kindles, I really am, but I don't understand why they object so strenuously to the idea that they're "locked in." You're a lot more locked in than I am with my device that reads epubs. I can get books anywhere EXCEPT Amazon (without tinkering). You can't get books from the other mainstream booksellers (without tinkering).

Again, if you're happy with Amazon, fine. But the other "choices" you have to get books outside of Amazon are hardly compelling.

Regarding the locked in part - what if next month Amazon introduces a newer kindle that offers features you/someone cannot resist. Are you/they any less locked in? The previous choice of reader/format and books will be lost with the move to the new platform.

I guess I don't know but does the additional choice of shops with epub actually provide additional selections between themselves or provide real price competition? Or is this one of those idealist arguments where the choices really don't exist?

As I said in another post, my partner does not believe in spending money on books (other that at library book sales where they are pennies on the dollar) and so for her the library is her route to books/reading. Epub might make some sense but not in the choice of shops.

Catlady · 12-11-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyR

I'm glad that non-Kindle owners are so happy with their e-readers, but I don't understand why they are trolling the Kindle forum...

Anyway, personally, I've bought more books for my Kindle from Baen and Fictionwise than Amazon itself. Is it Amazon's fault that other bookstores have chosen to use Adobe DRM?

If Amazon really wanted to lock people in, they could have made the Kindle only read files from Amazon, period.

I resent being called a troll.

I looked in the Kindle section because there was another thread about removing DRM, which is of interest to me because, yes, occasionally there's a book at Amazon that I might want to buy. And this thread about formats seemed to be related, so I started reading it. That makes me a troll?

jocampo · 12-11-2010, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by erictoma

can you find those titles ?? in your kindle store?

Dark Deception: Discover the Truths About the Benefits of Sunlight Exposure
Written by Dr Joseph Mercola, Joseph Herman, Jeffry

Can you find the other Dr Joseph Mercola's ebooks ?

1- Prostatitis: The 60-Day Cure - eBook 21.95 US $

2 -Take Control of your Health eBook 19.97 US $

3-Prostate Health in 90 Days - eBook 16.97 US $

You know what? Go to bed!

... you selected 3 medical random books to show your point? hahahaha... do you have prostate problems? hahaha...

All people here know already you're around Kindle forums talking no sense. Please make yourself a favor and don't embarrass yourself more.

erictoma · 12-11-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Catlady

I resent being called a troll.

I looked in the Kindle section because there was another thread about removing DRM, which is of interest to me because, yes, occasionally there's a book at Amazon that I might want to buy. And this thread about formats seemed to be related, so I started reading it. That makes me a troll?

I am the one who opened the thread about removing DRM.
So I beg the pardon of other members here because they think I'm trolling

Catlady · 12-11-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FF2

Regarding the locked in part - what if next month Amazon introduces a newer kindle that offers features you/someone cannot resist. Are you/they any less locked in? The previous choice of reader/format and books will be lost with the move to the new platform.

I guess I don't know but does the additional choice of shops with epub actually provide additional selections between themselves or provide real price competition? Or is this one of those idealist arguments where the choices really don't exist?

As I said in another post, my partner does not believe in spending money on books (other that at library book sales where they are pennies on the dollar) and so for her the library is her route to books/reading. Epub might make some sense but not in the choice of shops.

The feature that would sell me on Kindle is support for epub.

The additional choice of shops certainly makes a difference to me as far as non-Agency books go, because I can shop around for a better price. I personally have been extremely happy buying from Kobobooks, because of their many coupon offers, which, even in the short time I've been buying e-books, has saved me a decent amount of money.

And as you say, the other great option I have is library books, which are a great benefit.

TallMomof2 · 12-11-2010, 08:34 PM

If you are in the US then there really is no "shopping around" because of the Agency 5 price fixing agreement. The publisher sets the price and the agent, used to be the retailer, cannot sell for less than that price. There are still publishers that don't set the price and those can be discounted by the retailer.

I love my Kindle not just because of the Kindle store but because the only time I've had to connect it to my PC was when I loaded the screensaver hack. I can send all my books and periodical content wirelessly at no additional cost. To me that's more important than ePub. If I want it's trivial to remove DRM and convert.

If I had a hankering to read the Mercola books, which I don't because I don't agree with him, then I would purchase, strip, and convert. Same with foreign language books. I will not be stopped by DRM from reading what I want. Heck, on my Pocketbook IQ I *can* read any format, with or without DRM. The only downside is that it's an LCD screen.

erictoma · 12-11-2010, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TallMomof2

If I had a hankering to read the Mercola books, which I don't because I don't agree with him, then I would purchase, strip, and convert. Same with foreign language books. I will not be stopped by DRM from reading what I want. Heck, on my Pocketbook IQ I *can* read any format, with or without DRM. The only downside is that it's an LCD screen.

How can you agree or disagree with Dr Mercola without even reading his ebooks?

Do your read conclusions of your fiction authors to judge Dr Mercola ?

Edit : Converting is not as easy as you may think

desertgrandma · 12-11-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by erictoma

How can you agree or disagree with Dr Mercola without even reading his ebooks?

Do your read conclusions of your fiction authors to judge Dr Mercola ?

You really have a thing for this doctor.

Perhaps you are related, or pushing his writings for some other reason?

If a doctor has time for publishing so many books, perhaps his patients aren't getting the time they need.

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12-11-2010, 08:34 PM	#58
TallMomof2 Kindlephilia Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count	If you are in the US then there really is no "shopping around" because of the Agency 5 price fixing agreement. The publisher sets the price and the agent, used to be the retailer, cannot sell for less than that price. There are still publishers that don't set the price and those can be discounted by the retailer. I love my Kindle not just because of the Kindle store but because the only time I've had to connect it to my PC was when I loaded the screensaver hack. I can send all my books and periodical content wirelessly at no additional cost. To me that's more important than ePub. If I want it's trivial to remove DRM and convert. If I had a hankering to read the Mercola books, which I don't because I don't agree with him, then I would purchase, strip, and convert. Same with foreign language books. I will not be stopped by DRM from reading what I want. Heck, on my Pocketbook IQ I can read any format, with or without DRM. The only downside is that it's an LCD screen.