The Vent and Rant Thread - Page 916

EowynCarter · 12-02-2010, 03:17 PM

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. I've heard the go-with-the-flow defense given by a defendant, and he got the same "lemming" response. I've also heard that same defense given by an attorney.

As far as going with the flow goes, fact is, you are less dagerous when going at the same speed that the other. Would be kind of a shame to get to car hit because you're following speed limit.
And you might just not realize you're off limit, of everyone else is.
Trouble with laws / rules, is that that can't cover every special cases. Sometimes breaking them is safer / better. Just up to us to remember to be responsible.

pshrynk · 12-02-2010, 04:42 PM

I liked Montana's old "Reasonable, safe speed" law, myself.

kennyc · 12-02-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

I liked Montana's old "Reasonable, safe speed" law, myself.

It's all too much!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_l..._United_States

Can't we just all get along.

ShortNCuddlyAm · 12-02-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

It's all too much!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_l..._United_States

Can't we just all get along.

No - you guys drive on the wrong side of the road

WT Sharpe · 12-02-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

No - you guys drive on the wrong side of the road

And y'all can't speak English!

astrangerhere · 12-02-2010, 05:52 PM

Law Professor Mode...Must. Resist...

You understand that if I went into court today and tried the "going with the flow" defense I would likely get into hot water for providing such a lame defense for my client, right? My first year law students know better than that... I hope.

badgoodDeb · 12-02-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

No - you guys drive on the wrong side of the road

No, we drive on the right side of the road!

pshrynk · 12-02-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by astrangerhere

Law Professor Mode...Must. Resist...

You understand that if I went into court today and tried the "going with the flow" defense I would likely get into hot water for providing such a lame defense for my client, right? My first year law students know better than that... I hope.

Probably, but most people represent themselves on traffic violations. And you know what they say about people who act as their own attorneys...

Stitchawl · 12-02-2010, 06:03 PM

I was given a ticket by a Vermont State Trooper for passing another car by crossing a yellow line. I took it to court. It was dismissed by the Judge and the Trooper was admonished for not knowing the law. In Vermont (at the time) the law stated that it is/was illegal to pass when the way ahead is not clear. Nothing at all written about yellow lines. It's a good idea to always check the laws before we just pay out money!

Stitchawl

Pookeysgirl · 12-02-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Stitchawl

I was given a ticket by a Vermont State Trooper for passing another car by crossing a yellow line. I took it to court. It was dismissed by the Judge and the Trooper was admonished for not knowing the law. In Vermont (at the time) the law stated that it is/was illegal to pass when the way ahead is not clear. Nothing at all written about yellow lines. It's a good idea to always check the laws before we just pay out money!

Stitchawl

About a year ago my husband got a speeding ticket for doing 65km/h in a 50km/h zone. He didn't even think twice about the ticket until he got home and showed it to me. I knew the street he was on and knew that it was also a 60km/h zone, not 50! He showed me exactly where he was stopped and it was about 30 feet past the speed limit sign

. Of course the officer didn't bother showing up at court so it was thrown out. Moral of the story: Always read signs while driving!

SameOldStory · 12-02-2010, 06:49 PM

If you have time to kill, or just want a lark, go to traffic court. The excuses can be very funny.

One girl ticketed for littering had a defense of "But it was biodegradable!"

A girl with a parking ticket brought in a photo showing that the No Parking sign had been removed by the city (I don't believe that the city removed it for a minute) a few days after she was ticketed.

The judge said to one guy "I see you were pulled over for driving with your lights on".

"Yes, your honor, I had just left a brightly lit establishment."

"Yes, You had just pulled out of (name forgotten) Joe's Bar."

"Yes, your honor.

"I also see that you were driving with a revoked license."

"Yes, your honor, but It was only for a few blocks to pick something up for my mother."

"I also see that your mother did not give you permission to drive her car."

My problem was not laughing out loud. The kid just couldn't win.

bjones6416 · 12-02-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SameOldStory

If you have time to kill, or just want a lark, go to traffic court. The excuses can be very funny.

One girl ticketed for littering had a defense of "But it was biodegradable!"

A girl with a parking ticket brought in a photo showing that the No Parking sign had been removed by the city (I don't believe that the city removed it for a minute) a few days after she was ticketed.

The judge said to one guy "I see you were pulled over for driving with your lights on".

"Yes, your honor, I had just left a brightly lit establishment."

"Yes, You had just pulled out of (name forgotten) Joe's Bar."

"Yes, your honor.

"I also see that you were driving with a revoked license."

"Yes, your honor, but It was only for a few blocks to pick something up for my mother."

"I also see that your mother did not give you permission to drive her car."

My problem was not laughing out loud. The kid just couldn't win.

I wonder if there are reruns of "Night Court" anywhere. That was a great show.

Pookeysgirl · 12-02-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bjones6416

I wonder if there are reruns of "Night Court" anywhere. That was a great show.

I catch it every once in a while. It was hilarious.

kennyc · 12-02-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bjones6416

I wonder if there are reruns of "Night Court" anywhere. That was a great show.

SameOldStory · 12-02-2010, 07:13 PM

A new rant.

I play backgammon online (not for money).

(People who don't know, and play, Backgammon can skip this one.)

I just had a, supposed, "expert" start a game with me. I won the roll and moved a 1,3.

It's now his turn. The Fr#$%^#&#$ moron doubles me! This is a game without bets, and the moron doubles me before his first move!

Why do some immature imbeciles have to make (pretend to make) everything "more" exciting?

The doubling cube can be a very important tool even in a game without money. But NOT on your first play.

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12-02-2010, 04:42 PM	#13727
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	I liked Montana's old "Reasonable, safe speed" law, myself.

12-02-2010, 05:52 PM	#13731
astrangerhere Professor of Law Posts: 3,755 Karma: 68428716 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Device: Kobo Elipsa, Kobo Libra H20, Kobo Aura One, KoboMini	Law Professor Mode...Must. Resist... You understand that if I went into court today and tried the "going with the flow" defense I would likely get into hot water for providing such a lame defense for my client, right? My first year law students know better than that... I hope.

12-02-2010, 06:03 PM	#13734
Stitchawl Opsimath Posts: 12,344 Karma: 187123287 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chiang Mai, Northern Thailand Device: Sony PRS-650, iPhone 5, Kobo Glo, Sony PRS-350, iPad, Samsung Galaxy	I was given a ticket by a Vermont State Trooper for passing another car by crossing a yellow line. I took it to court. It was dismissed by the Judge and the Trooper was admonished for not knowing the law. In Vermont (at the time) the law stated that it is/was illegal to pass when the way ahead is not clear. Nothing at all written about yellow lines. It's a good idea to always check the laws before we just pay out money! Stitchawl

12-02-2010, 06:49 PM	#13736
SameOldStory My True Self Posts: 3,126 Karma: 66242098 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Trantor, Galactic Center Device: Galaxy Tab 2 7.0	If you have time to kill, or just want a lark, go to traffic court. The excuses can be very funny. One girl ticketed for littering had a defense of "But it was biodegradable!" A girl with a parking ticket brought in a photo showing that the No Parking sign had been removed by the city (I don't believe that the city removed it for a minute) a few days after she was ticketed. The judge said to one guy "I see you were pulled over for driving with your lights on". "Yes, your honor, I had just left a brightly lit establishment." "Yes, You had just pulled out of (name forgotten) Joe's Bar." "Yes, your honor. "I also see that you were driving with a revoked license." "Yes, your honor, but It was only for a few blocks to pick something up for my mother." "I also see that your mother did not give you permission to drive her car." My problem was not laughing out loud. The kid just couldn't win.

12-02-2010, 07:13 PM	#13740
SameOldStory My True Self Posts: 3,126 Karma: 66242098 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Trantor, Galactic Center Device: Galaxy Tab 2 7.0	A new rant. I play backgammon online (not for money). (People who don't know, and play, Backgammon can skip this one.) I just had a, supposed, "expert" start a game with me. I won the roll and moved a 1,3. It's now his turn. The Fr#$%^#&#$ moron doubles me! This is a game without bets, and the moron doubles me before his first move! Why do some immature imbeciles have to make (pretend to make) everything "more" exciting? The doubling cube can be a very important tool even in a game without money. But NOT on your first play.