Websites seized/closed for Copyright

kennyc · 11-29-2010, 03:31 PM

I'm surprised this isn't all over the forum:

The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency picked the busiest online shopping day of the year to shut down 82 websites -- including the domain of a BitTorrent meta-search engine -- the federal government said are offering counterfeit or pirated goods.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/...SSfeed_IWK_All

http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2010/11...counterfeiting

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...iolations.html

mr ploppy · 11-29-2010, 03:41 PM

There is a list of sites here:

http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-governme...d-more-101126/

Most of them seem to be sellers of fake (real) merchandise rather than unauthorised downloads. This one made me smile:

http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-...ortion-101129/

Lemurion · 11-29-2010, 03:42 PM

Impressive work. Getting serious I see.

speedtouch · 11-29-2010, 04:14 PM

What in the world does ICE have any business closing websites for copyright issues? Is that in their area of operation? We sure know they aren't doing their primary job of immigration...maybe this is what they've been up to all these years.

kennyc · 11-29-2010, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedtouch

What in the world does ICE have any business closing websites for copyright issues? Is that in their area of operation? We sure know they aren't doing their primary job of immigration...maybe this is what they've been up to all these years.

the "Customs" part I would assume.

Here's the Press Release from ICE themselves:

http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/101...washington.htm

Doug Huffman · 11-29-2010, 06:04 PM

Department of Homeland Severity skirts posse comitatus and becomes the dentures of the Obamanation, and our Barney Fife Guardia Civil.

Andrew H. · 11-29-2010, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Huffman

Department of Homeland Severity skirts posse comitatus and becomes the dentures of the Obamanation, and our Barney Fife Guardia Civil.

Take your meds, Doug.

Worldwalker · 11-29-2010, 07:05 PM

The Department of Vaterland Security has been around a lot longer than two years. So has the "Patriot" Act. Whatever things President Obama deserves the blame for, this isn't one of them. It started long before him.

It started when we decided "safety" (as defined by someone else, of course) is worth any amount of liberty. It started earlier, when people said "If you don't have anything to hide, what are you afraid of?" It started before that, when we decided to outsource our opinions to the law ("I don't like it, but there's no law against it, so I can't say anything"). It started even before that, when we became "consumers" instead of citizens, defined by what we buy instead of what we do.

doreenjoy · 11-29-2010, 07:29 PM

I see no controversy in shutting down sites that violate copyright.

Doug Huffman · 11-29-2010, 08:15 PM

Agreed. Since when is that the mission of Big Sis?

SlowRain · 11-29-2010, 08:49 PM

It's probably not appropriate to say openly, but I'm fine with copyright infringement so long as the person or organization you are infringing upon is a complete jerk. And, because I can foresee the question now: I decide, by my own standards, who is a jerk, and you decide, by your own standards, who is a jerk.

Sil_liS · 11-29-2010, 08:55 PM

All this action will do is just increase paranoia. Sounds like all they wanted to do is be associated with the sales season. Next year don't plan on shopping from a no-name website: it might get seized without notice.

All this will accomplish is to get small online shops on their way to bankruptcy. The real crooks can find their way out of this mess.

kennyc · 11-29-2010, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowRain

It's probably not appropriate to say openly, but I'm fine with copyright infringement so long as the person or organization you are infringing upon is a complete jerk. And, because I can foresee the question now: I decide, by my own standards, who is a jerk, and you decide, by your own standards, who is a jerk.

So if I don't like you I can take all your stuff. Cool!

Worldwalker · 11-29-2010, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doreenjoy

I see no controversy in shutting down sites that violate copyright.

By whose definition?

MR. Pockets · 11-29-2010, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldwalker

The Department of Vaterland Security has been around a lot longer than two years. So has the "Patriot" Act. Whatever things President Obama deserves the blame for, this isn't one of them. It started long before him.

Far to true. The Republicans are just as much to blame for the state of the country as the Democrats. Republicans = go-slow-Democrats.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldwalker

It started when we decided "safety" (as defined by someone else, of course) is worth any amount of liberty. It started earlier, when people said "If you don't have anything to hide, what are you afraid of?" It started before that, when we decided to outsource our opinions to the law ("I don't like it, but there's no law against it, so I can't say anything"). It started even before that, when we became "consumers" instead of citizens, defined by what we buy instead of what we do.

Here is a very good article on the right to privacy and "nothing to hide, what are you afraid of" line.
http://www.wired.com/politics/securi.../2006/05/70886

11-29-2010, 03:31 PM	#1
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,900 Karma: 119230421 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	Websites seized/closed for Copyright I'm surprised this isn't all over the forum: The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency picked the busiest online shopping day of the year to shut down 82 websites -- including the domain of a BitTorrent meta-search engine -- the federal government said are offering counterfeit or pirated goods. http://www.informationweek.com/news/...SSfeed_IWK_All http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2010/11...counterfeiting http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...iolations.html

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Worldwalker Curmudgeon Posts: 3,085 Karma: 722357 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: PRS-505	The Department of Vaterland Security has been around a lot longer than two years. So has the "Patriot" Act. Whatever things President Obama deserves the blame for, this isn't one of them. It started long before him. It started when we decided "safety" (as defined by someone else, of course) is worth any amount of liberty. It started earlier, when people said "If you don't have anything to hide, what are you afraid of?" It started before that, when we decided to outsource our opinions to the law ("I don't like it, but there's no law against it, so I can't say anything"). It started even before that, when we became "consumers" instead of citizens, defined by what we buy instead of what we do.

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doreenjoy 01000100 01001010 Posts: 1,889 Karma: 2400000 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Polyamorous	I see no controversy in shutting down sites that violate copyright.

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Doug Huffman Banned Posts: 102 Karma: 7860 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Washington Island, across Death's Door, Wisconsin, USA Device: KINDLE 3 WiFi	Agreed. Since when is that the mission of Big Sis?

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SlowRain Addict Posts: 311 Karma: 9553 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: a Canadian expat in Taiwan Device: HTC 10, Asus Phonepad	It's probably not appropriate to say openly, but I'm fine with copyright infringement so long as the person or organization you are infringing upon is a complete jerk. And, because I can foresee the question now: I decide, by my own standards, who is a jerk, and you decide, by your own standards, who is a jerk.

11-29-2010, 08:55 PM	#12
Sil_liS Wizard Posts: 4,896 Karma: 33602910 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: PocketBook 903 & 360+	All this action will do is just increase paranoia. Sounds like all they wanted to do is be associated with the sales season. Next year don't plan on shopping from a no-name website: it might get seized without notice. All this will accomplish is to get small online shops on their way to bankruptcy. The real crooks can find their way out of this mess.