Seriousness Princess Catherine of ???

wodin · 11-18-2010, 01:32 PM

I've read a few very confusing articles about what Kate Middleton’s official title will be after she marries Prince William. I’ve seen everything from "Catherine, Princess of Wales", to "Kate, Duchess of Clarence, Cambridge and/or Sussex"; and frankly I’m as confused as ever. The only thing that seems at all consistent is that she will be "Her Royal Highness".

So I thought, “Hey, I have a lot of British friends on MR, why not ask them?” So I’m asking.

kindlekitten · 11-18-2010, 01:33 PM

isn't Chuck still Prince of Wales? what is Harry right now? it would match whatever his title is

HarryT · 11-18-2010, 01:39 PM

She will simply be "Princess Catherine"; no "of" anywhere

. If and when Charles becomes King, William will probably become Prince of Wales (although this is not automatic), and Catherine would become Princess of Wales, as well as acquiring various lesser titles, such as Duchess of Cornwall.

TGS · 11-18-2010, 01:54 PM

And has it been resolved yet what the current Duchess of Cornwall will be called when/if her husband becomes king?

HarryT · 11-18-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TGS

And has it been resolved yet what the current Duchess of Cornwall will be called when/if her husband becomes king?

She will be the Queen, just as she is now Princess of Wales. What she may choose to call herself doesn't change that! I've no idea what she will be called - I guess that time will tell.

It actually wouldn't surprise me if Charles did not become King, and the throne passed directly to William.

phenomshel · 11-18-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

She will be the Queen, just as she is now Princess of Wales. What she may choose to call herself doesn't change that! I've no idea what she will be called - I guess that time will tell.

It actually wouldn't surprise me if Charles did not become King, and the throne passed directly to William.

This is what I've been thinking, as well. If that happens, she'd be Queen Catherine, no? Or would she still be Princess? (using the logic that Prince Philip is ...well, Prince, not King...)

neilmarr · 11-18-2010, 02:18 PM

I've been around for the marriage of the present Queen Elizabeth. Since then, there have been five (first) marriages in the family, four of which have ended in tears. Given those odds against this one lasting, who cares a damn? Neil

HarryT · 11-18-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by phenomshel

This is what I've been thinking, as well. If that happens, she'd be Queen Catherine, no? Or would she still be Princess? (using the logic that Prince Philip is ...well, Prince, not King...)

She would be Queen Catherine, yes. The wife of a reigning King is a Queen, but the husband of a reigning Queen is merely a Prince. The husband or wife has absolutely no legal "power" and does not inherit the throne when their spouse dies.

HarryT · 11-18-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by neilmarr

I've been around for the marriage of the present Queen Elizabeth. Since then, there have been five (first) marriages in the family, four of which have ended in tears. Given those odds against this one lasting, who cares a damn? Neil

I wish them the very best of luck. I think they've learned from the mistakes of the past, and I hope that it does all work out for them.

As an ardent Royalist, I do care

. Kate will probably be the mother of the future King or Queen of the United Kingdom.

phenomshel · 11-18-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

She would be Queen Catherine, yes. The wife of a reigning King is a Queen, but the husband of a reigning Queen is merely a Prince. The husband or wife has absolutely no legal "power" and does not inherit the throne when their spouse dies.

Interesting! That last part I did know. Thanks, Harry.

poohbear_nc · 11-18-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

She will be the Queen, just as she is now Princess of Wales. What she may choose to call herself doesn't change that! I've no idea what she will be called - I guess that time will tell.

It actually wouldn't surprise me if Charles did not become King, and the throne passed directly to William.

I thought I remembered reading that Charles cut a deal - he got to marry Camilia and keep his current position as Prince as long as he agreed not to ascend to the throne - but let it pass to William? [Meaning Camilia would never be Queen?]

Truth or tabloid?

wodin · 11-18-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

She would be Queen Catherine, yes. The wife of a reigning King is a Queen, but the husband of a reigning Queen is merely a Prince. The husband or wife has absolutely no legal "power" and does not inherit the throne when their spouse dies.

I recall Elizabeth's mother being called the "Queen Mother" until she died, even though she was not married to a King.

GA Russell · 11-18-2010, 03:32 PM

I thought that Camilla agreed not to be the queen when she and Charles got permission to marry. But I also read that some felt that they didn't have the power to negotiate such a deal, and that she would be queen whether she liked it or not.

Harry, why do you think that William might succeed Elizabeth?

Bilbo1967 · 11-18-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wodin

I recall Elizabeth's mother being called the "Queen Mother" until she died, even though she was not married to a King.

I always assumed she was called the Queen Mother because she was...well...the Queen's mother

wodin · 11-18-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

I always assumed she was called the Queen Mother because she was...well...the Queen's mother

If that were the case, wouldn't she have been called the Queen's Mother?

11-18-2010, 01:32 PM	#1
wodin Illiterate Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro	Princess Catherine of ??? I've read a few very confusing articles about what Kate Middleton’s official title will be after she marries Prince William. I’ve seen everything from "Catherine, Princess of Wales", to "Kate, Duchess of Clarence, Cambridge and/or Sussex"; and frankly I’m as confused as ever. The only thing that seems at all consistent is that she will be "Her Royal Highness". So I thought, “Hey, I have a lot of British friends on MR, why not ask them?” So I’m asking.

11-18-2010, 01:39 PM	#3
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	She will simply be "Princess Catherine"; no "of" anywhere . If and when Charles becomes King, William will probably become Prince of Wales (although this is not automatic), and Catherine would become Princess of Wales, as well as acquiring various lesser titles, such as Duchess of Cornwall. Last edited by HarryT; 11-18-2010 at 01:42 PM.

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GA Russell Elks out Posts: 7,713 Karma: 31487351 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Device: Paperwhite, Kindles 10 & 4 and jetBook Lite	I thought that Camilla agreed not to be the queen when she and Charles got permission to marry. But I also read that some felt that they didn't have the power to negotiate such a deal, and that she would be queen whether she liked it or not. Harry, why do you think that William might succeed Elizabeth?