The Vent and Rant Thread - Page 864

WT Sharpe · 11-10-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dsvick

Kenny I agree with you that there is no reason the book shouldn't be written or offered for sale. I do however question the moral and ethical viewpoint of all parties concerned, from the author to the publisher to Amazon, in the production and sale of it. It seriously shakes my faith in society that at some point one of them didn't say "This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it."

There's something to be said for that. I feel anyone has the right to write whatever they please, but no publisher or bookseller should feel compelled to publish or sell the garbage. Amazon blew it on this one.

Stitchawl · 11-10-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Nor can we make threats against the president as was recently evidenced via a sentence against a blogger.

My concern is where do you draw the line and who gets to?

Too true...

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

What a world we live in, eh? I think I'm going to move to Mars.

Stitchawl

Piper_ · 11-10-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

So let me get this straight.

You really want to start a thread on the right of someone to publish, and someone else to sell, a book on the joys of pedophilia?

Is that what I'm hearing?

Me?

No... well, not how I think you mean. I think Amazon is completely wrong.

I just thought such a big story was worth a thread. I had a hard time finding the discussion, and it is likely to swamp the vent and rant thread's daily discussion.

But that's just me. I asked before posting one myself, because I wasn't sure.

recluse · 11-10-2010, 07:24 PM

Yes, let's have a thread!

I want to hear the defense for allowing child molestors to freely talk about what they were doing right before they logged on.

Brought to you by the same people who would protest my posting how I threw a child molestor out of a 30th floor window.

desertgrandma · 11-10-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Piper_

Me?

No... well, not how I think you mean. I think Amazon is completely wrong.

I just thought such a big story was worth a thread. I had a hard time finding the discussion, and it is likely to swamp the vent and rant thread's daily discussion.

But that's just me. I asked before posting one myself, because I wasn't sure.

The post wasn't directed at anyone person....just generally.

The story is in our national news here.....hopefully it will force Amazon to remove the atrocity.

As for myself, I don't think this needs its own thread....there really isn't a 'pro and con' here than I can see.

WT Sharpe · 11-10-2010, 07:26 PM

This is the most disgusting topic we've ever discussed here at MobileRead.

desertgrandma · 11-10-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by recluse

Yes, let's have a thread!

I want to hear the defense for allowing child molestors to freely talk about what they were doing right before they logged on.

Brought to you by the same people who would protest my posting how I threw a child molestor out of a 30th floor window.

No, recluse. If there are people like that ere, I don't want to know.

JSWolf · 11-10-2010, 07:28 PM

I cannot see anyone being for this and if they are, then I think that person or persons have serious problems.

JSWolf · 11-10-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

No, recluse. If there are people like that ere, I don't want to know.

I don't want to know as well. There is no pro for this sort of thing. So anyone who is for it based on the subject should be banned (IMHO).

JSWolf · 11-10-2010, 07:30 PM

This sick book is doing well in the sales ranking...

Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #292 Paid in Kindle Store

JSWolf · 11-10-2010, 07:40 PM

CNN's blog has picked up the story...

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/10...iref=allsearch

kindlekitten · 11-10-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

So let me get this straight.

You really want to start a thread on the right of someone to publish, and someone else to sell, a book on the joys of pedophilia?

Is that what I'm hearing?

I don't think anyone is pro at all. I think the fascination is kind of like watching a car wreck... and also debating whether Amazon is right or wrong in publishing it

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

This sick book is doing well in the sales ranking...

Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #292 Paid in Kindle Store

unfortunately a lot of the casually curious are buying it based on the conversations going on over there

desertgrandma · 11-10-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kindlekitten

I don't think anyone is pro at all. I think the fascination is kind of like watching a car wreck... and also debating whether Amazon is right or wrong in publishing it

There is actually a question about this? Really?

kindlekitten · 11-10-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

There is actually a question about this? Really?

that's the biggest thing I am hearing

Piper_ · 11-10-2010, 07:51 PM

I found y'all, so I'm cool with anything y'all decide. I wanted to make a comment and saw the request to take it out of this thread, and thought I'd wait till it was decided.

...and by now, I actually have two comments.

One - I looked at the Amazon threads and the support for Amazon's selling the book was shocking.

Two - I'm libertarian-leaning on 90% of things, but I feel sick whenever I hear people - including Amazon - compare this to any other possibly offensive material, like religious books or political books "some people don't like."

I know fine distinctions are hard for some people, but have we sunk so low in our ability to evaluate and make judgment calls that we can't recognize the huge distinction between "possibly offensive books" and books encouraging pedophilia?

And when did we become so enamored with the crutch of the "slippery slope" argument that we refuse to take a stand on the slope, even if it's right?

I think using slippery slopes as a reason to do bad things is a slippery slope!

(Hey, this Venting thing really works. I feel better than I have for hours of holding this in.

)

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11-10-2010, 07:24 PM	#12949
recluse Banned Posts: 3,724 Karma: 535488 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: the Mortuary Device: Kindle 2	Yes, let's have a thread! I want to hear the defense for allowing child molestors to freely talk about what they were doing right before they logged on. Brought to you by the same people who would protest my posting how I threw a child molestor out of a 30th floor window.

11-10-2010, 07:26 PM	#12951
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,072 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	This is the most disgusting topic we've ever discussed here at MobileRead.

11-10-2010, 07:28 PM	#12953
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,070 Karma: 147983159 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I cannot see anyone being for this and if they are, then I think that person or persons have serious problems.

11-10-2010, 07:30 PM	#12955
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,070 Karma: 147983159 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	This sick book is doing well in the sales ranking... Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #292 Paid in Kindle Store

11-10-2010, 07:40 PM	#12956
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,070 Karma: 147983159 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	CNN's blog has picked up the story... http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/10...iref=allsearch

11-10-2010, 07:51 PM	#12960
Piper_ ~~~~~ Posts: 761 Karma: 1278391 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA Device: Kindle 3, Sony 350	I found y'all, so I'm cool with anything y'all decide. I wanted to make a comment and saw the request to take it out of this thread, and thought I'd wait till it was decided. ...and by now, I actually have two comments. One - I looked at the Amazon threads and the support for Amazon's selling the book was shocking. Two - I'm libertarian-leaning on 90% of things, but I feel sick whenever I hear people - including Amazon - compare this to any other possibly offensive material, like religious books or political books "some people don't like." I know fine distinctions are hard for some people, but have we sunk so low in our ability to evaluate and make judgment calls that we can't recognize the huge distinction between "possibly offensive books" and books encouraging pedophilia? And when did we become so enamored with the crutch of the "slippery slope" argument that we refuse to take a stand on the slope, even if it's right? I think using slippery slopes as a reason to do bad things is a slippery slope! (Hey, this Venting thing really works. I feel better than I have for hours of holding this in. )