The Vent and Rant Thread - Page 859

kennyc · 11-09-2010, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stitchawl

"Blitzkrieg" doesn't even begin to describe what I did out on the test track today...

It was as if I had never even been on a motorcycle before.

I almost stalled right at the starting gate. I almost hit a pylon. I even fell off the bridge!

(walks off shaking his head in amazement.)

I think I'll go eat some worms.

Thank God there is another Wednesday next week.

Stitchawl

AiiiiEEEE! Oh no!

rogue_red · 11-09-2010, 10:56 PM

Okay, so I'm not normally all political/ranty but...

I cannot believe that Amazon has published an ebook called "A Pedophiles Guide to Love and Pleasure".
They (Amazonians) say that they don't support censorship blah blah but as a company with a financial interest in the sale of this book it smells more like a buck in heat than free speech.
Being the open minded 'I won't burn you at the stake til I've proven you're evil' kinda girl, I downloaded the freely available sample to be sure it wasn't a joke. I seriously wish I hadn't. Can kids go on Amazon with their kindles? Is there and age restriction to downloading free sample ebooks? I'd hate for some kid to read what Mr Greaves wrote.

SneakySnake · 11-09-2010, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogue_red

Okay, so I'm not normally all political/ranty but...

I cannot believe that Amazon has published an ebook called "A Pedophiles Guide to Love and Pleasure".
They (Amazonians) say that they don't support censorship blah blah but as a company with a financial interest in the sale of this book it smells more like a buck in heat than free speech.
Being the open minded 'I won't burn you at the stake til I've proven you're evil' kinda girl, I downloaded the freely available sample to be sure it wasn't a joke. I seriously wish I hadn't. Can kids go on Amazon with their kindles? Is there and age restriction to downloading free sample ebooks? I'd hate for some kid to read what Mr Greaves wrote.

In America? You can't even say "arse" there and they published that!

Are you sure it is not a joke?

desertgrandma · 11-09-2010, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogue_red

Okay, so I'm not normally all political/ranty but...

I cannot believe that Amazon has published an ebook called "A Pedophiles Guide to Love and Pleasure".
They (Amazonians) say that they don't support censorship blah blah but as a company with a financial interest in the sale of this book it smells more like a buck in heat than free speech.
Being the open minded 'I won't burn you at the stake til I've proven you're evil' kinda girl, I downloaded the freely available sample to be sure it wasn't a joke. I seriously wish I hadn't. Can kids go on Amazon with their kindles? Is there and age restriction to downloading free sample ebooks? I'd hate for some kid to read what Mr Greaves wrote.

WHAT??? I"m so my way......

desertgrandma · 11-09-2010, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SneakySnake

In America? You can't even say "arse" there and they published that!

Are you sure it is not a joke?

Here's the link.........but I felt dirty just reading the authors description.

Personally, I think pedophiles should just have a bullet in the head. PC nonsense about rehabilitation be dammed.

WT Sharpe · 11-09-2010, 11:34 PM

That's just freaking weird. Ground rules for adult/child sexual relationships? I have only one. Don't do it; it's sick.

recluse · 11-09-2010, 11:34 PM

A bullet in the head?

Desertgrandma, you are getting too PC.

Hunt them down, nail them to the farking floorboards, and set fire to them!

desertgrandma · 11-09-2010, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by recluse

A bullet in the head?

Desertgrandma, you are getting too PC.

Hunt them down, nail them to the farking floorboards, and set fire to them!

That will work also.

I cannot abide the thought of this.

SneakySnake · 11-10-2010, 12:37 AM

I can't believe Amazon published this. Paedophilia is not socially acceptable. We all want them dead. Some of us want them punished miserably, but I would prefer a quick painless removal from society. It is not their fault they are bent units. Just throw them back into the foundry and see if we can recycle their atoms.

kindlekitten · 11-10-2010, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogue_red

Okay, so I'm not normally all political/ranty but...

I cannot believe that Amazon has published an ebook called "A Pedophiles Guide to Love and Pleasure".
They (Amazonians) say that they don't support censorship blah blah but as a company with a financial interest in the sale of this book it smells more like a buck in heat than free speech.
Being the open minded 'I won't burn you at the stake til I've proven you're evil' kinda girl, I downloaded the freely available sample to be sure it wasn't a joke. I seriously wish I hadn't. Can kids go on Amazon with their kindles? Is there and age restriction to downloading free sample ebooks? I'd hate for some kid to read what Mr Greaves wrote.

ACK!!!! noooooo!!!!

devilsadvocate · 11-10-2010, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recluse

A bullet in the head?

Desertgrandma, you are getting too PC.

Hunt them down, nail them to the farking floorboards, and set fire to them!

I'll bring the gasoline; you bring the soda.

recluse · 11-10-2010, 03:03 AM

It's farking high time that decent people stopped waiting for the Law to catch the fark up and declared hunting season open on those monsters!
I'm sick of finding flyers in my mailbox warning me that another registered sex offender has moved into my neighborhood!
How about a flyer letting me know when one of them has been lynched?

"As far as I'm concerned, there ain't no excuse for the raping and the killing and the child abuse, and I got a way to put an end to all of that mess. You just take them rascals out in the swamp, you put 'em on their knees and tie 'em to a stump, let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest."
"Simple Man": Charlie Daniels

nohmi2 · 11-10-2010, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recluse

It's farking high time that decent people stopped waiting for the Law to catch the fark up and declared hunting season open on those monsters!
I'm sick of finding flyers in my mailbox warning me that another registered sex offender has moved into my neighborhood!
How about a flyer letting me know when one of them has been lynched?

"As far as I'm concerned, there ain't no excuse for the raping and the killing and the child abuse, and I got a way to put an end to all of that mess. You just take them rascals out in the swamp, you put 'em on their knees and tie 'em to a stump, let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest."
"Simple Man": Charlie Daniels

I read about this a few days ago on another chatroom which I belong to. Members were outraged.

The response from TPTB was that as nothing illegal was being done, then they were unable to do a darned thing about it.

I felt ill, and sad, and thoroughly depressed.

What have we become?

rogue_red · 11-10-2010, 03:31 AM

I couldn't sleep for days after reading the sample. The thing is, this piece of trash.
Quotes from the sample I viewed and my responses I posted on Amazons forum.
Phillip Greaves II (the so called author) says:
"It is hoped this work will have a wide appeal for all persons whose lives
are affected by the politics surrounding sexual relations between young
children and pedosexual adults..."

How dare he dismiss the global repugnance of his acts by suggesting it is
either born of politics, religion or ignorance.

He goes on to say that it is not his intention to promote or excuse the
practice of pedophilia but he would rather see the 'pedosexuals' conquer the
world than hear of another child being killed because a pedosexual is driven
into a state of pedocidal-psychosis...

Firstly, this is a major epic fail on behalf of Amazon. I don't give a
rat's arse about freedom of speech when the practice of it promotes such
vile crimes.
The aspect of this that astounds me the most is the level of delusion Mr.
Greaves must be suffering if he is genuinely expecting that we should
gratefully hand over our children to be raped and sodomized because he can't
stand the idea of some poor pedophile being forced to murder children just
so he can continue his perversion.
Can the author seriously expect readers to understand and empathize with the poor misunderstood pedosexual? Where is the pedophiles empathy when he smothers the anguished screams of a child as he rapes her, ripping the
fragile infantile flesh with each thrust. Where is the empathy when those
children are diagnosed with sexually transmitted diseases at five years of
age? Where is the empathy when those children grow up to become alcoholics and junkies because they need so desperately to forget.

As a parent, animosity goes nowhere toward expressing how I feel about
pedophiles.

Amazons response to complaints.
Hello,
As a retailer, our goal is to provide customers with the broadest selection possible so they can find, discover, and buy any item they might be seeking. That selection includes some items which many people may find objectionable. Therefore, the items offered on our website represent a wide spectrum of opinions on a variety of topics.

Let me assure you that Amazon.com does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts; we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions.

Amazon.com believes it is censorship not to sell certain titles because we believe their message is objectionable. Therefore, we'll continue to make controversial works available in the United States and everywhere else, except where they're prohibited by law. We also allow readers, authors, and publishers to express their views freely about these titles and other products we offer on our website. However, Amazon.com doesn't endorse opinions expressed by individual authors, musical artists, or filmmakers.

We value all feedback from our customers, and I thank you again for taking the time to send us your comments about this issue. Although we won't be able to comment further on this topic, we hope you'll allow us to continue to serve you.

What a cop out! Amazon were originally listed as the publisher but I noticed after the complaints that it was changed to the authors name instead. Just as well I took a screen shot when I did. I'd like to see them deny that they were ever the publisher. There must be a law against companies advertising material that encourages sex crimes against children.

Oh and he's from Colorado, even has his picture (courtesy FBI) on his profile.

kennyc · 11-10-2010, 05:57 AM

Not to defend it, but.....

Many would say the same thing about books that say God doesn't exist or supporting Nazis or Skinhead gangs, homosexuality..... What about books in favor of Theft?

Maybe this discussion should go in Politics and Religion....

P.S. Eeeek! Colorado....want me to go kick his butt?

11-10-2010, 03:31 AM	#12884
rogue_red Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 4191 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: iPod	I couldn't sleep for days after reading the sample. The thing is, this piece of trash. Quotes from the sample I viewed and my responses I posted on Amazons forum. Phillip Greaves II (the so called author) says: "It is hoped this work will have a wide appeal for all persons whose lives are affected by the politics surrounding sexual relations between young children and pedosexual adults..." How dare he dismiss the global repugnance of his acts by suggesting it is either born of politics, religion or ignorance. He goes on to say that it is not his intention to promote or excuse the practice of pedophilia but he would rather see the 'pedosexuals' conquer the world than hear of another child being killed because a pedosexual is driven into a state of pedocidal-psychosis... Firstly, this is a major epic fail on behalf of Amazon. I don't give a rat's arse about freedom of speech when the practice of it promotes such vile crimes. The aspect of this that astounds me the most is the level of delusion Mr. Greaves must be suffering if he is genuinely expecting that we should gratefully hand over our children to be raped and sodomized because he can't stand the idea of some poor pedophile being forced to murder children just so he can continue his perversion. Can the author seriously expect readers to understand and empathize with the poor misunderstood pedosexual? Where is the pedophiles empathy when he smothers the anguished screams of a child as he rapes her, ripping the fragile infantile flesh with each thrust. Where is the empathy when those children are diagnosed with sexually transmitted diseases at five years of age? Where is the empathy when those children grow up to become alcoholics and junkies because they need so desperately to forget. As a parent, animosity goes nowhere toward expressing how I feel about pedophiles. Amazons response to complaints. Hello, As a retailer, our goal is to provide customers with the broadest selection possible so they can find, discover, and buy any item they might be seeking. That selection includes some items which many people may find objectionable. Therefore, the items offered on our website represent a wide spectrum of opinions on a variety of topics. Let me assure you that Amazon.com does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts; we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions. Amazon.com believes it is censorship not to sell certain titles because we believe their message is objectionable. Therefore, we'll continue to make controversial works available in the United States and everywhere else, except where they're prohibited by law. We also allow readers, authors, and publishers to express their views freely about these titles and other products we offer on our website. However, Amazon.com doesn't endorse opinions expressed by individual authors, musical artists, or filmmakers. We value all feedback from our customers, and I thank you again for taking the time to send us your comments about this issue. Although we won't be able to comment further on this topic, we hope you'll allow us to continue to serve you. What a cop out! Amazon were originally listed as the publisher but I noticed after the complaints that it was changed to the authors name instead. Just as well I took a screen shot when I did. I'd like to see them deny that they were ever the publisher. There must be a law against companies advertising material that encourages sex crimes against children. Oh and he's from Colorado, even has his picture (courtesy FBI) on his profile. Last edited by rogue_red; 11-10-2010 at 03:35 AM. Reason: addenum

11-10-2010, 05:57 AM	#12885
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,922 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6	Not to defend it, but..... Many would say the same thing about books that say God doesn't exist or supporting Nazis or Skinhead gangs, homosexuality..... What about books in favor of Theft? Maybe this discussion should go in Politics and Religion.... P.S. Eeeek! Colorado....want me to go kick his butt? Last edited by kennyc; 11-10-2010 at 05:59 AM.

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11-09-2010, 10:56 PM	#12872
rogue_red Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 4191 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: iPod	Okay, so I'm not normally all political/ranty but... I cannot believe that Amazon has published an ebook called "A Pedophiles Guide to Love and Pleasure". They (Amazonians) say that they don't support censorship blah blah but as a company with a financial interest in the sale of this book it smells more like a buck in heat than free speech. Being the open minded 'I won't burn you at the stake til I've proven you're evil' kinda girl, I downloaded the freely available sample to be sure it wasn't a joke. I seriously wish I hadn't. Can kids go on Amazon with their kindles? Is there and age restriction to downloading free sample ebooks? I'd hate for some kid to read what Mr Greaves wrote.

11-09-2010, 11:34 PM	#12876
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,072 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	That's just freaking weird. Ground rules for adult/child sexual relationships? I have only one. Don't do it; it's sick.

11-09-2010, 11:34 PM	#12877
recluse Banned Posts: 3,724 Karma: 535488 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: the Mortuary Device: Kindle 2	A bullet in the head? Desertgrandma, you are getting too PC. Hunt them down, nail them to the farking floorboards, and set fire to them!

11-10-2010, 12:37 AM	#12879
SneakySnake I'm watching you! Posts: 6,113 Karma: 22344652 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny Coast Qld, OZ Device: Sony PRS-900(unused lately) iPadAir2, want me Kindle Oasis	I can't believe Amazon published this. Paedophilia is not socially acceptable. We all want them dead. Some of us want them punished miserably, but I would prefer a quick painless removal from society. It is not their fault they are bent units. Just throw them back into the foundry and see if we can recycle their atoms.

11-10-2010, 03:03 AM	#12882
recluse Banned Posts: 3,724 Karma: 535488 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: the Mortuary Device: Kindle 2	It's farking high time that decent people stopped waiting for the Law to catch the fark up and declared hunting season open on those monsters! I'm sick of finding flyers in my mailbox warning me that another registered sex offender has moved into my neighborhood! How about a flyer letting me know when one of them has been lynched? "As far as I'm concerned, there ain't no excuse for the raping and the killing and the child abuse, and I got a way to put an end to all of that mess. You just take them rascals out in the swamp, you put 'em on their knees and tie 'em to a stump, let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest." "Simple Man": Charlie Daniels