Towers of Midnight Ebook Delay - Page 4

Crowl · 11-06-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mostly Math

Brandon talked to Harriet, and she agreed to release the ebook in three months (February) as opposed to waiting for a year as originally planned. Still sucks though

Just seems so stupid, if they want to encourage the hb sales then just have the ebook price matching it to start with and giving people the choice of buying the version they would rather have when the response of many to this delay will be to simply not bother, get it from the library or download a dodgy version from somewhere with none of those options doing the slightest thing to help the publisher or author compared with an actual ebook sale.

It does make you wonder if this was the plan for the last book as well, but they could at least hide behind the excuse that they were stupidly staggering the releases of the other books to dodge the complaints of potential customers they would be annoying with such a decision.

Ankh · 11-06-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowl

Just seems so stupid...

The html version of first 11 books that I found served (yes, you use the actual browser to read it, chapter by chapter, from the server) on the net was one of the best formatted, proofed and equipped (illustrations and all) ebooks that I ever saw, including beautiful works hosted on this server.

Giving those guys any headstart seems outright insane, IMHO.

Blue Tyson · 11-07-2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Tyson

Be interesting to see how long it takes this fat pastiche to get scanned and uploaded.

Answer in this case 'not very bloody long', it seems.

Benni-chan · 11-07-2010, 04:46 PM

there's already a full scanned version online...

Blue Tyson · 11-07-2010, 05:44 PM

Right, so the 'no ebook' strategy lasted for about 3 days given this is popular. Although if a first scan likely will need a bit of work given it is so long.

NVash · 11-07-2010, 06:53 PM

I cant understand why they give people the chance to do this kind of thing. They decided they didnt want to release the ebook so consumers did it for them. Many will buy it anyway but theres two things Id like to say. First, I hope they release the ebook with some extra content such as another prequel to justify the purchase. Second, I hope that when this series is complete they offer a complete ebook version for purchase.

Blue Tyson · 11-07-2010, 07:04 PM

An omnibus or bundle? Macmillan come up with a nice, consumer friendly idea like that for a series that will only be 30 years old?

You're dreaming. ;-) Maybe in 2030...

And if you go on the music and video industry 'every download is a lost sale' propaganda accounting system, this book will soon be well into the negative money, presumably. ;-)

NVash · 11-07-2010, 07:26 PM

I know for a fact that if they offered a Wheel Of Time Omnibus with all fourteen books plus all the prequels and some extra content Id buy that in a heartbeat. Problem is I know theyd make it so expensive Id probably be better buying them all in paperback and hardcover and Id still have money to spare.

My question is this, if they want to see any download as a lost sale why in the World do they all but encourage downloading? The fact that they didnt release it the same day as the hardcover lost them an unprecedented amount of sales but they probably dont want to see that or even think about it.

Blue Tyson · 11-07-2010, 08:01 PM

Presumably Macmillan think that dead tree paper shuffling is the thing that makes them money, only - and that if they can't do that, they are toast, so they are attempting to drag out their shortish term survival...

And also that they are not capable of increasing the overall market for books going forward.

With their attitude, of course, they definitely are not capable, so as a whole the publishing industry is long-term better off without management with no vision, strategy or ability.

It would be pretty funny if what killed them was actually digital recalcitrance because their competitors were more advanced in this arena so capital flowed their way and they survived while Macmillan expired.

jhempel24 · 11-07-2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Benni-chan

there's already a full scanned version online...

yeah, I checked it out...it's just not that good. Two pages condensed to one page PDF, and the TXT is just terrible. I'll wait for the official one, but in the meantime, I've bought the HC.

Blue Tyson · 11-07-2010, 11:27 PM

The version I noticed was html, actually, so there's more out there. I imagine it won't take long for it to be upgraded....

Quake1028 · 11-08-2010, 08:21 AM

I've seen txt and PDF versions so far. I have only read the first two books, and those were years ago, so I need to restart the books anyway. Looks like mid next year will be a good time.

Lordblacknail · 11-08-2010, 09:15 AM

The version I saw was proofed and looked very nice, wih all illustrations intact.

astra · 11-08-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordblacknail

The version I saw was proofed and looked very nice, wih all illustrations intact.

jhempel24 · 11-08-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordblacknail

The version I saw was proofed and looked very nice, wih all illustrations intact.

Cool, wish I saw that version LOL. Of course it'll be a couple months before I get to it, still have to read 12....but I'm off to buy 13, combined with my Borders Bucks and the discount, it'll cost me $10 in HC woo!!

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Lordblacknail Groupie Posts: 171 Karma: 330000 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida Device: Kobo Libre 2 Galaxy Tab S7 Plus Kobo Libre Colour	TOM The version I saw was proofed and looked very nice, wih all illustrations intact.

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11-07-2010, 04:46 PM	#49
Benni-chan Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle Keyboard	there's already a full scanned version online...

11-07-2010, 05:44 PM	#50
Blue Tyson Blue Captain Posts: 1,595 Karma: 5000236 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Keyboard 3G,Huawei Ideos X3,Kobo Mini	Right, so the 'no ebook' strategy lasted for about 3 days given this is popular. Although if a first scan likely will need a bit of work given it is so long.

11-07-2010, 06:53 PM	#51
NVash Wandering Vagabond Posts: 282 Karma: 350000 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: iPod Touch	I cant understand why they give people the chance to do this kind of thing. They decided they didnt want to release the ebook so consumers did it for them. Many will buy it anyway but theres two things Id like to say. First, I hope they release the ebook with some extra content such as another prequel to justify the purchase. Second, I hope that when this series is complete they offer a complete ebook version for purchase.

11-07-2010, 07:04 PM	#52
Blue Tyson Blue Captain Posts: 1,595 Karma: 5000236 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Keyboard 3G,Huawei Ideos X3,Kobo Mini	An omnibus or bundle? Macmillan come up with a nice, consumer friendly idea like that for a series that will only be 30 years old? You're dreaming. ;-) Maybe in 2030... And if you go on the music and video industry 'every download is a lost sale' propaganda accounting system, this book will soon be well into the negative money, presumably. ;-)

11-07-2010, 07:26 PM	#53
NVash Wandering Vagabond Posts: 282 Karma: 350000 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: iPod Touch	I know for a fact that if they offered a Wheel Of Time Omnibus with all fourteen books plus all the prequels and some extra content Id buy that in a heartbeat. Problem is I know theyd make it so expensive Id probably be better buying them all in paperback and hardcover and Id still have money to spare. My question is this, if they want to see any download as a lost sale why in the World do they all but encourage downloading? The fact that they didnt release it the same day as the hardcover lost them an unprecedented amount of sales but they probably dont want to see that or even think about it.

11-07-2010, 08:01 PM	#54
Blue Tyson Blue Captain Posts: 1,595 Karma: 5000236 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Keyboard 3G,Huawei Ideos X3,Kobo Mini	Presumably Macmillan think that dead tree paper shuffling is the thing that makes them money, only - and that if they can't do that, they are toast, so they are attempting to drag out their shortish term survival... And also that they are not capable of increasing the overall market for books going forward. With their attitude, of course, they definitely are not capable, so as a whole the publishing industry is long-term better off without management with no vision, strategy or ability. It would be pretty funny if what killed them was actually digital recalcitrance because their competitors were more advanced in this arena so capital flowed their way and they survived while Macmillan expired.

11-07-2010, 11:27 PM	#56
Blue Tyson Blue Captain Posts: 1,595 Karma: 5000236 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Keyboard 3G,Huawei Ideos X3,Kobo Mini	The version I noticed was html, actually, so there's more out there. I imagine it won't take long for it to be upgraded....

11-08-2010, 08:21 AM	#57
Quake1028 Guru Posts: 917 Karma: 9155462 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tampa, FL Device: See signature	I've seen txt and PDF versions so far. I have only read the first two books, and those were years ago, so I need to restart the books anyway. Looks like mid next year will be a good time.