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bjones6416 · 11-01-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by iandix

Yes I also have heard about these calibre plugins, that make stripping DRM all so simple. I was told that all you need to do is load the book into calibre and it strips the DRM as it loads ..how easy is that ...

but stripping DRM is WRONG! and I would never do that myself...

So do NOT google "Apprentice Alf's Blog" and then do NOT go to that site to find links to download the tools needed to do strip DRM from within calibre.

stripping DRM for your own use is W-R-O-N-G!!

I'm going to have to put a wink here for you, because apparently some of us aren't reading between the lines of your post:

Superlucky · 11-01-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffcobb

What an amusing statement. Is this to intimate that if stripping DRM for your own use is wrong, stripping it for someone *elses* use is OK? Honestly if you really did mean that stripping DRM on something you bought was wrong, in what way does it benefit anyone to leave it there? Does it make the book last longer? No. Does it make the book work better on the ereader? No. Not sure what the point it is. DRM is the *first* thing to go when I buy something.

Seriously, people. LOOK AT HIS AVATAR!

Catlady · 11-01-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffcobb

Actually I think it is funny to hear that, like there is something wrong with typing something to a computer to tell it to do something. Leaving aside the pedantics of binary, typing something to a computer to tell it to do something is not that different than order dinner in a French restaurant...in French. Or discussing something with a Karate instructor in Japanese. IOW there is nothing wrong with that and a whole lot right with it. Is it for everyone? No of course not but there is indeed nothing wrong with typing something to a computer to tell it to do something. People who look at it like it is some kind of exotic skill are the ones who are funny...to me, having to click on things to get a computer is about as non-intuitive as one can get. To apply this to the French restaurant, it would be like grunting and pointing at things on the menu as if you could not read it...

Why should I go through all the hassle if someone else has done it for me? (I'm not talking about buying a software program--that's not what I did, I just found the scripts to download and install.) Should I really spend years studying French before setting foot in a French restaurant if pointing gets me what I want to eat? Maybe it would make sense if I was going to spend time in Paris, but for one quick meal? Same thing here. And even if I typed in some script, it wouldn't be something I understood, I'd simply be copying like a monkey, so ... why NOT just download and be done with it?

Hellmark · 11-01-2010, 04:36 PM

To be honest, I don't know how the sarcasm could have been any more obvious, with out the poster going "THIS IS A JOKE!"

bjones6416 · 11-01-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellmark

To be honest, I don't know how the sarcasm could have been any more obvious, with out the poster going "THIS IS A JOKE!"

I agree!

Steven Lake · 11-01-2010, 05:11 PM

Just FYI for anyone who hasn't heard already. But due to a recent court case that went all the way to the supreme court, you now have the complete and legal right to strip DRM from anything you own. The kicker part of the decision is that it's still illegal to won the tools to do so. But I figure with the way that DRM's house of cards is falling apart like it is, that should come along soon.

jeffcobb · 11-01-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Catlady

Why should I go through all the hassle if someone else has done it for me? (I'm not talking about buying a software program--that's not what I did, I just found the scripts to download and install.) Should I really spend years studying French before setting foot in a French restaurant if pointing gets me what I want to eat? Maybe it would make sense if I was going to spend time in Paris, but for one quick meal? Same thing here. And even if I typed in some script, it wouldn't be something I understood, I'd simply be copying like a monkey, so ... why NOT just download and be done with it?

No Catlady, the point isn't why you shouldn't do it that way; the point was there is nothing inherently wrong with (in this analogy) ordering in French if it makes sense to do so in that setting (or in say Chinese in an authentic Chinese restaurant, etc) and in some circumstances far more natural and intuitive. What I am saying is people that can pop open a window and talk to a computer in its own language are not the odd ones here...

KenJackson · 11-01-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellmark

To be honest, I don't know how the sarcasm could have been any more obvious, with out the poster going "THIS IS A JOKE!"

The problem is, sarcasm is difficult to convey in text unless you know the personality of the author.
Anything that you assume will be understood as a joke is earnestly accepted as truth by someone, somewhere.

KenJackson · 11-01-2010, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Catlady

Why should I go through all the hassle if someone else has done it for me? ..., so ... why NOT just download and be done with it?

Exactly.
That's why I do it the most simple way and just type in the simple command that does all the searching, downloading and installing for me.
Linux is easy!

mbovenka · 11-02-2010, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KenJackson

Apparently you are saying it is morally wrong to strip the DRM of a book you paid for and only using yourself.

That's wrong.

That's no more morally wrong than it is to do your own car maintenance and use generic replacement parts.

I think your sarcasm detector needs an overhaul

KenJackson · 11-02-2010, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mbovenka

I think your sarcasm detector needs an overhaul

At the risk of repetition:
The problem is, sarcasm is difficult to convey in text unless you know the personality of the author.

Anything that you assume will be understood as a joke is earnestly accepted as truth by someone, somewhere.

pendragginp · 11-02-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven Lake

Just FYI for anyone who hasn't heard already. But due to a recent court case that went all the way to the supreme court, you now have the complete and legal right to strip DRM from anything you own. The kicker part of the decision is that it's still illegal to won the tools to do so. But I figure with the way that DRM's house of cards is falling apart like it is, that should come along soon.

I'm sorry, it's early and I'm dense, but what is 'won'?

And yes, honestly, how much clearer could the ironic poster be? I was smiling as I read it!

But, back to being dense, does 'put the python scripts with the calibre plug-ins' mean to put them into the calibre folder?

tankuberrymush

Sweetpea · 11-02-2010, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pendragginp

But, back to being dense, does 'put the python scripts with the calibre plug-ins' mean to put them into the calibre folder?

tankuberrymush

I never understood how that worked either...

Manichean · 11-02-2010, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pendragginp

But, back to being dense, does 'put the python scripts with the calibre plug-ins' mean to put them into the calibre folder?

I haven't used the plugins or scripts in question myself, but if the howto says to install the scripts as Calibre plugins, this has a short note on how to do it.

abookreader · 11-02-2010, 08:47 AM

In Calibre

Click Peferences
Click Plug-ins

Now in Calibre there are all sorts of plug-ins. Say For instance

File Type Plug-ins

So for instance, if you were installing a *certain type* of Plug-ins you might want to highlight

File Type Plug-ins

Then down the screen a bit at the bottom where it says Plug-In file you'd want to browse to where a certain Plug-In zip file would be stored on your computer and then click "Add"in Calibre.

Then, if your Plug-In came with any further directions, like how to Customize the Plug-In ---- those would probably be contained in a txt File called "ReadMe*XXXX" that you could open up to see how to make the Plug-In work for you specifically.

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11-01-2010, 04:36 PM	#34
Hellmark Wizard Posts: 2,586 Karma: 4290425 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Foristell, Missouri, USA Device: Nokia N800, PRS-505, Nook STR Glowlight, Kindle 3, Kobo Libra 2	To be honest, I don't know how the sarcasm could have been any more obvious, with out the poster going "THIS IS A JOKE!"

11-01-2010, 05:11 PM	#36
Steven Lake Sci-Fi Author Posts: 1,158 Karma: 14743509 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Device: PC (Calibre)	Just FYI for anyone who hasn't heard already. But due to a recent court case that went all the way to the supreme court, you now have the complete and legal right to strip DRM from anything you own. The kicker part of the decision is that it's still illegal to won the tools to do so. But I figure with the way that DRM's house of cards is falling apart like it is, that should come along soon.

11-02-2010, 08:47 AM	#45
abookreader Wizard Posts: 1,516 Karma: 2567610 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kindles - Keyboard, Fire, 2-US, iPhone, iPAD	In Calibre Click Peferences Click Plug-ins Now in Calibre there are all sorts of plug-ins. Say For instance File Type Plug-ins So for instance, if you were installing a certain type of Plug-ins you might want to highlight File Type Plug-ins Then down the screen a bit at the bottom where it says Plug-In file you'd want to browse to where a certain Plug-In zip file would be stored on your computer and then click "Add"in Calibre. Then, if your Plug-In came with any further directions, like how to Customize the Plug-In ---- those would probably be contained in a txt File called "ReadMe*XXXX" that you could open up to see how to make the Plug-In work for you specifically.