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Old 10-26-2010, 07:50 PM   #226
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I woke up this morning with thoughts of shrimp drenched in lemon butter with garlic, and just a touch of basil (at the end of the cooking) with heaps of garlic bread and a bottle of Chianti!

But... should it be with shrimp or with prawns?


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I'm guessing but, at least here, shrimp=small, prawns=large. Personally I'm inclined to use my fingers like a good, little troglodyte.

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I'm guessing but, at least here, shrimp=small, prawns=large. Personally I'm inclined to use my fingers like a good, little troglodyte.

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Sorry, guys. There are big shrimp and small prawns too.

In this case, size really doesn't matter.
They are completely different critters.

Sort of like comparing chimpanzees with humans although chimps and us actually have more in common than if you compare shrimp to prawns. Other than taste, which is pretty close, they have quite a few differences between them. Different legs (same number but different shape. Pincer vs no pincer,) different shell structure (check out plate number three,) completely different breathing apparatus (lamellar vs branching,) etc.

I wonder if we taste the same as chimps?

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Old 10-27-2010, 05:58 AM   #232
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Sorry, guys. There are big shrimp and small prawns too.

In this case, size really doesn't matter.
They are completely different critters.

Sort of like comparing chimpanzees with humans although chimps and us actually have more in common than if you compare shrimp to prawns. Other than taste, which is pretty close, they have quite a few differences between them. Different legs (same number but different shape. Pincer vs no pincer,) different shell structure (check out plate number three,) completely different breathing apparatus (lamellar vs branching,) etc.

I wonder if we taste the same as chimps?

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See, I think this is a regional thing. For us it's mostly all the same. "Shrimps" are just small prawns ("shrimp" is actually not much used, regardless of that old Paul Hogan ad. We generally specify species). It's sort of the way what we call "lobster" is totally different to what those in...is it northeast?...US call lobster. I understand those different traits you're talking about, but we wouldn't call the pincered variety "prawns". In fact, I'm not even sure we have the pincered variety. They sound similar to what are called, I think, langosteen in the UK.

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See, I think this is a regional thing. For us it's mostly all the same. "Shrimps" are just small prawns ("shrimp" is actually not much used, regardless of that old Paul Hogan ad. We generally specify species). It's sort of the way what we call "lobster" is totally different to what those in...is it northeast?...US call lobster. I understand those different traits you're talking about, but we wouldn't call the pincered variety "prawns". In fact, I'm not even sure we have the pincered variety. They sound similar to what are called, I think, langosteen in the UK.

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There is a common trend all over the world to use 'shrimp' to mean small ones and 'prawns' to mean the bigger jobs. Same in the US, Malaysia, France, Australia, etc. A common name rather than specie designation, though in fact, they are actually different. They begin to differ higher up in the biological taxonomy than do 'lobsters.' The shrimp/prawn begin to split at the 'order,' while the lobsters split at the 'family' stage. (Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species)

Langoustines are what Americans call cray fish, with the one served in the UK being a marine rather than fresh water variety so popular in New Orleans Creole cooking. They have large pincers and look like mini-New England lobster. The slipper lobsters and spiny lobsters (the kind you folks get, without claws) are several steps removed, but like the shrimp/prawn situation, taste just about the same as the New England lobster.

The prawns that you get down under actually have pincers on three pair of their legs, while shrimp have them only on two pair. The other legs of the shrimps don't have any pincers at all. As for your not noticing them, the pincers aren't like lobster claws at all. They are little bitty things that you wouldn't notice when cleaning the prawns, unless you went looking for them with a magnifying glass.

(No danger to scuba divers... except for the Killer Shrimp that hunt in packs, dragging down unwitting swimmers. Related to Killer Sheep in behavior... )


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NOW you've gone and done it!

I can NOT get real delicatessen rye bread anywhere in this country, and I can't make it so that it comes out tasting like the stuff I used to get from the Jewish bakeries in NYC. My rye bread looks right, has the right ingredients, but the taste is 90° off! I know that one of the keys to making it is using ground up stale bread as part of the new dough, but even when I try that it doesn't taste the way it should.

I can't justify airfare to the US for a loaf of bread. Having it shipped to me will not give me a fresh loaf still hot from the oven.
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Oddly enough, here in Kyoto there is never one around when you need one! I'll just have to go to New York. And as long as I'm there, I may as well order a pastrami (extra lean) on rye with deli mustard, and a Kosher dill pickle on the side. Now THAT could very well justify the plane fare!!
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