Massive wave of ebook piracy?

[ManosHandsOfFate]

Originally Posted by jgaiser

Amen brother... This one has hit the bottom of the rat hole.

Like the phoenix, another will rise from the ashes!

Even as I write this there's a poor, unsuspecting first-time poster formulating an innocent question that will soon become the copyright/stealing thread du jour.

[Rhynedahll]

There is a certain segment of the populace that will always attempt to get something for nothing. All electronic files can be copied and I don't personally believe that any DRM will be discovered that can prevent this in all cases.

That being said, I also believe that most readers will continue to buy their ebooks, simply because I believe that the majority of readers are fans who tend to support their authors.

I do agree with others who have said that the price of ebooks must come down (and retailers cut must shrink accordingly) in order to remain competative with the black market.

[darknessangel]

Ahoy mateys! Thar be plunder to be had from these riverrats! Ramming speed!

[GhostHawk]

And when they have taken away all the ethnic groups, and the religious, and the Jewish. Who do you think is going to be the ones to stand up and resist? Those who believe in not breaking a rule, ever? Or those who thumb their noses at regulation and oppression.

Who do you think the french resistance were when they started. Pirates, smugglers, thieves and outcasts.

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Originally Posted by GhostHawk

And when they have taken away all the ethnic groups, and the religious, and the Jewish. Who do you think is going to be the ones to stand up and resist? Those who believe in not breaking a rule, ever? Or those who thumb their noses at regulation and oppression.

Who do you think the french resistance were when they started. Pirates, smugglers, thieves and outcasts.

Oh...my...word! This is rich. The pirates are going to be our saviors.

[Steven Lyle Jordan]

Oh, puh-leeeese. The dren is getting too deep and smelly to wade through around here. Next we'll be hearing that the pirate movement is being led by the bodiless head of the King of the Moon from astride his mechanical three-headed vulture. I think this thread has officially broken through to the Twilight Zone, next stop: The Cornfield.

[kevinp]

Originally Posted by Steven Lyle Jordan

Oh, puh-leeeese. The dren is getting too deep and smelly to wade through around here. Next we'll be hearing that the pirate movement is being led by the bodiless head of the King of the Moon from astride his mechanical three-headed vulture. I think this thread has officially broken through to the Twilight Zone, next stop: The Cornfield.

After all, it IS getting close to All Hallow's Eve (also know as Halloween).

[M0zza]

I think this is what the media companies really think of as an equivallent to piracy.

[Piper_]

Originally Posted by AlbertaCowboy

I never get too involved in this (pointless) argument, but as a staunch middle grouper, I have a question. Why does the refusal to join into a dead end debate with absolutely no chance of comprimise constitue not having a pair? To me it's just common sense to avoid being insulted and/or denigrated for my opinion by either end of the spectrum.

Originally Posted by jessicalynn

yeah....I'm a middle grounder as well. Like I don't see myself turning to ebook piracy anytime soon, because I love books and reading and I want authors to get the money from my purchases. But then again, I have used libraries before, and authors don't get any money from me checking a book out of the library....but I guess they do get the money from the initial purchase of the book. But then again someone probably had to purchase the initial file that is pirated. hmm. Regardless, I don't see people who pirate as the scum of the earth or something the way some people in this thread do!
This thread is way to snarky for my tastes though. I feel like if I see this: smiley one more time I will scream!! lol.

Honestly! Yeeeesh.

Biting my tongue. Guess that'll be seen as not having "a pair" too, but if I said all I'm thinking now, I'd feel disrespectful to the admin and to my parents, who reared me to show some class, and to grow up, not just grow old.

It's pretty bad when I feel more sympathetic toward the kids I think are making bad choices than the people who are "instructing" them.

But the poster upthread nailed it when he said this is like adults who go all freaky at kids having sex, instead of dealing with it rationally.

Hyperbole, sanctimony, snark... gains nothing except backlash as people feel justified in totally blowing you off.

...so much for biting my tongue. Sorry. That offensive challenge just pushed me over the edge.

[Steven Lyle Jordan]

Originally Posted by Piper_

But the poster upthread nailed it when he said this is like adults who go all freaky at kids having sex, instead of dealing with it rationally.

Though I disagree with the analogy (knowing far too many people whose unintended early pregnancies effectively ruined their adulthoods), how would you want to see them "deal with it rationally"?

[sabredog]

Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald

The same reason why people shoplift, litter, are rude, go through the 10 items or less line with 50 items, etc. They know that no will have the nerve to speak up. Your silence is the same as approval to them and is a form of cowardice. One person objecting may not make a difference. Neither may ten people. But if a large majority had the courage to standup to the wrogdoers, it just might make a difference. Say nothing and it will only get worse.

Oh I speak up, many of us middle groupers do, but calling us cowards now?

I just don't need to be rude, snide and nasty to offer up an opinion. This is unlike some individuals who name call and who to like to jam their opinions down other people throats.

So no, I am NOT a coward and I DO NOT need to grow some.

[mr ploppy]

Originally Posted by Steven Lyle Jordan

Though I disagree with the analogy (knowing far too many people whose unintended early pregnancies effectively ruined their adulthoods), how would you want to see them "deal with it rationally"?

DRM = chastity belt.

[GERGE]

Piracy is bad. True. But as long there are people who reads more then they can buy, there will be piracy.

I buy 3-4 ebooks every month. $13 Way of the Kings for example covers nearly half of my book budget. I'm living on a scholarship here, I cannot buy anymore (when I finished paying for my nook I guess I will read less pirated books); so I read pirated books too if my uni doesn't have the book in Library. But I don't think people who have enough money should read pirated book.

Sorry if that offends you...

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by GERGE

Piracy is bad. True. But as long there are people who reads more then they can buy, there will be piracy.

I buy 3-4 ebooks every month. $13 Way of the Kings for example covers nearly half of my book budget. I'm living on a scholarship here, I cannot buy anymore (when I finished paying for my nook I guess I will read less pirated books); so I read pirated books too if my uni doesn't have the book in Library. But I don't think people who have enough money should read pirated book.

Sorry if that offends you...

Have you considered reading classic literature? It's the stuff written up to the early 20th century. It's all in the public domain; therefore completely free to download, own, and read.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Have you considered reading classic literature? It's the stuff written up to the early 20th century. It's all in the public domain; therefore completely free to download, own, and read.

And some of the best stuff ever written!