Kindle officials manuals (PDF)

TadW · 11-19-2007, 09:44 AM

From here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...deId=200127470

tirsales · 11-19-2007, 09:48 AM

Oh well, some of the questions have been answeared:
It supports only unencrypted Mobi-Files, and Kindle-Files are a special format.

But you can get your own files on it via SD or USB.

• Kindle (.AZW)
• Text (.TXT)
• Unprotected Mobipocket (.MOBI, .PRC)
• Audible (.AA)
• MP3 (.MP3)
Tip: Mobipocket files must have no Digital Rights Management (DRM) protection
applied to be readable on your Kindle. If you purchased a Mobipocket file from a
Mobipocket retailer, you will not be able to open the file on your Kindle.

vivaldirules · 11-19-2007, 09:53 AM

This is consistent with the fact that I saw no changes or announcements at all on the Mobipocket web site. So content bought for the Kindle is in a new Kindle (.AZW) format that can't be read on anything but a Kindle. Bummer.

UncleDuke · 11-19-2007, 09:54 AM

now just how close are those kindle files to mobipocket files, i think very close

wallcraft · 11-19-2007, 09:59 AM

This means the ONLY way purchase e-books for the Kindle is via Amazon (or via LIT to ConvertLIT to mobigen.exe). This is an incredibly shortsighted approach, since they clearly could have allowed DRMed MOBI e-books (they own MobiPocket after all).

On the bright side, perhaps this will push some publishers into the DRM-free camp.

tribble · 11-19-2007, 10:02 AM

What a bold approach. Buy mobipocket, sell all their content, but lock any mobipocket retailer out of the Kindle. But i guess with Amazons market power they couldnt care less.

TallMomof2 · 11-19-2007, 10:06 AM

I've purchased numerous unprotected Mobipocket books and they should work on the Kindle. I've read them on other unregistered devices. I'm really disappointed that the Kindle introduces yet another proprietary format.

igorsk · 11-19-2007, 10:19 AM

It's not actually another format. It's mobi, but as far as I can guess, it just uses Amazon's DRM servers instead of Mobipocket's. And probably another way of generating PIDs. Maybe another encryption algorithm, though I kinda doubt it.

azog · 11-19-2007, 10:21 AM

This needs to be stickied!

irright · 11-19-2007, 11:20 AM

I am not seeing anything about pdf capabilities. Can that be?

jasonkchapman · 11-19-2007, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tirsales

It supports only unencrypted Mobi-Files, and Kindle-Files are a special format.

I predicted this would be the case. That way it has no impact on existing contracts with Mobipocket e-booksellers. Amazon is technically not competing with Mobipocket's dealer network.

NatCh · 11-19-2007, 12:48 PM

igorsk pointed out in another thread that the AZW files are mobi files with a different extension. He has a sample file there that you can try it with for yourself.

tirsales · 11-19-2007, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irright

I am not seeing anything about pdf capabilities. Can that be?

Yes, apparently there is no PDF support.

NatCh · 11-19-2007, 02:36 PM

Perhaps they actually realized how ill-suited PDF is for e-books and decided not to bother?

tirsales · 11-19-2007, 03:04 PM

However ill-suited PDF might be - there is too many content available in PDF to simply ignore it.
It might be okay for an "only fiction"-reader - but even them would benefit from PDF - but it is hilarious for a tec or business user.

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11-19-2007, 09:48 AM	#2
tirsales MIA ... but returning som Posts: 1,600 Karma: 511342 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Germany Device: PRS-505 and Really not owning a PRS-700	Oh well, some of the questions have been answeared: It supports only unencrypted Mobi-Files, and Kindle-Files are a special format. But you can get your own files on it via SD or USB. • Kindle (.AZW) • Text (.TXT) • Unprotected Mobipocket (.MOBI, .PRC) • Audible (.AA) • MP3 (.MP3) Tip: Mobipocket files must have no Digital Rights Management (DRM) protection applied to be readable on your Kindle. If you purchased a Mobipocket file from a Mobipocket retailer, you will not be able to open the file on your Kindle.

11-19-2007, 09:53 AM	#3
vivaldirules When's Doughnut Day? Posts: 10,059 Karma: 13675475 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, TX, US Device: Sony PRS-505, iPad	This is consistent with the fact that I saw no changes or announcements at all on the Mobipocket web site. So content bought for the Kindle is in a new Kindle (.AZW) format that can't be read on anything but a Kindle. Bummer.

11-19-2007, 09:54 AM	#4
UncleDuke books & doughnuts Posts: 882 Karma: 37857 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: usa Device: sony reader, kindle2	now just how close are those kindle files to mobipocket files, i think very close

11-19-2007, 09:59 AM	#5
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	This means the ONLY way purchase e-books for the Kindle is via Amazon (or via LIT to ConvertLIT to mobigen.exe). This is an incredibly shortsighted approach, since they clearly could have allowed DRMed MOBI e-books (they own MobiPocket after all). On the bright side, perhaps this will push some publishers into the DRM-free camp.

11-19-2007, 10:02 AM	#6
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	What a bold approach. Buy mobipocket, sell all their content, but lock any mobipocket retailer out of the Kindle. But i guess with Amazons market power they couldnt care less.

11-19-2007, 10:06 AM	#7
TallMomof2 Kindlephilia Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count	I've purchased numerous unprotected Mobipocket books and they should work on the Kindle. I've read them on other unregistered devices. I'm really disappointed that the Kindle introduces yet another proprietary format.

11-19-2007, 10:19 AM	#8
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	It's not actually another format. It's mobi, but as far as I can guess, it just uses Amazon's DRM servers instead of Mobipocket's. And probably another way of generating PIDs. Maybe another encryption algorithm, though I kinda doubt it.

11-19-2007, 10:21 AM	#9
azog Enthusiast Posts: 49 Karma: 33 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Cybook Gen3, Kindle	This needs to be stickied!

11-19-2007, 11:20 AM	#10
irright Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: kindle	I am not seeing anything about pdf capabilities. Can that be?

11-19-2007, 12:48 PM	#12
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	igorsk pointed out in another thread that the AZW files are mobi files with a different extension. He has a sample file there that you can try it with for yourself.

11-19-2007, 02:36 PM	#14
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Perhaps they actually realized how ill-suited PDF is for e-books and decided not to bother?

11-19-2007, 03:04 PM	#15
tirsales MIA ... but returning som Posts: 1,600 Karma: 511342 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Germany Device: PRS-505 and Really not owning a PRS-700	However ill-suited PDF might be - there is too many content available in PDF to simply ignore it. It might be okay for an "only fiction"-reader - but even them would benefit from PDF - but it is hilarious for a tec or business user.