|  11-19-2007, 08:37 AM | #31 | 
| Fully Converged            Posts: 18,175 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here. | |
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|  11-19-2007, 08:48 AM | #32 | 
| Kindlephilia            Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count | 
			
			Maybe I am, maybe I'm not.    Or in my case, a cat. | 
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|  11-19-2007, 08:50 AM | #33 | |
| Connoisseur      Posts: 59 Karma: 405 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Berne, Switzerland Device: Cybook Gen3 | 
			
			Tried ordering with a Swiss mail adress: Quote: 
  Of course, I have seen this message before (whenever I tried order any electronical device from Amazon). Only remains to hope that local shops (.de, .co.uk) will offer the device for sale as well. If not, people outside Northern America are pretty much out of luck. (Of course you can have somebody order it for you or use services like myus.com, but to me this not really an option) Last edited by ashalan; 11-19-2007 at 08:53 AM. Reason: Added Screenshot | |
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|  11-19-2007, 09:38 AM | #34 | |
| reader            Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD | 
			
			Has anyone been able to download the User's Guide or the Manual from Amazon?  Near the bottom of the Kindle web page: Quote: 
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|  11-19-2007, 09:41 AM | #35 | 
| Sir Penguin of Edinburgh            Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1 | |
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|  11-19-2007, 09:51 AM | #36 | 
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				Kindle Will Crash and Burn
			 
			
			My prediction- the Kindle will crash and burn.  Sales will be dismal- just like for the Sony reader.  And the reasons have been around ever since the Rocketbook/GEM flop- but no one is considering them.  Yet again, I see a device that the manufacturer thinks will make them rich from "content sales."  Yet again, a comparison is made to the Apple Ipod- hey, this reader will "do the same thing for books as the Ipod did for music."  Where did I hear that line before?  Oh, yeah, in an article about the Sony Reader. Sorry, unless this thing comes with a High-speed book scanner, it will do no such thing. I have hundreds of music cd's I can rip to my ipod. This reader doesn't let me rip my paper books to its format- I won't even be able to read my ereader books on it, probably. Hype and more hype, no substance. Gem 1150 mark 2. | 
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|  11-19-2007, 09:53 AM | #37 | |
| Resident Curmudgeon            Posts: 80,727 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3 | 
			
			ok folks, I have some rather bad news to deliver.... Quote: 
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|  11-19-2007, 10:05 AM | #38 | 
| When's Doughnut Day?            Posts: 10,059 Karma: 13675475 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, TX, US Device: Sony PRS-505, iPad | 
			
			Now this is ugly.  You can't buy ebooks from Amazon to read except on a Kindle.  It won't support protected Mobipocket (in fact, the Mobipocket web site looks the same today as it did months ago - nothing about the Kindle).  And the only delivery to the Kindle is EVDO unless there is some way to convert to the supported .AZW format on your PC.  Yes, I hope they crash and burn.     | 
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|  11-19-2007, 10:08 AM | #39 | 
| eink fanatic            Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2 | 
			
			Well, the manual was easy to convert..I just changed the filename from .azw to .prc but I doubt it's going to be that easy for DRM protected books...
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|  11-19-2007, 10:09 AM | #40 | 
| iLiad Maniac            Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony) | 
			
			I think its a bad business decision aswell, but on the other hand, Amazon is big enough to be able to do just that. I am just wondering, why the publishers let them lock in customers.
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|  11-19-2007, 10:11 AM | #41 | 
| iLiad Maniac            Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony) | 
			
			I assume they are using mobipocket formats with a different file extension. But since you cannot find out your kindles ID, you cannot purchase from any other mobipocket retailer. Nor can you buy a book for a non kindle ereader, since they do not allow you to register the device. So basically you have mobipocket files with no way to access them.
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|  11-19-2007, 10:18 AM | #42 | 
| Kindlephilia            Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count | 
			
			When I get mine I will see if it'll read the many non-DRM Mobipocket books I bought online. I've been able to read them on unregistered devices so I should be able to read them on the Kindle.
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|  11-19-2007, 10:19 AM | #43 | |
| The Introvert            Posts: 8,307 Karma: 1000077497 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500 | Quote: 
 It the first day! They have just announced the product. Quite possible that in 1 week time when service is up and running, free of the very first obvious glitches the overall picture will look a bit different from what we can see today. | |
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|  11-19-2007, 10:26 AM | #44 | 
| Resident Curmudgeon            Posts: 80,727 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3 | 
			
			I'm not making any conclusions. Why would Amazon not want to sell content for their reader? It makes sense. They bought Mobipocket so they would have content for the Kindle. If we want Mobi content otherwise, we go elsewhere.
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|  11-19-2007, 10:32 AM | #45 | |
| The Introvert            Posts: 8,307 Karma: 1000077497 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500 | 
			
			Because it not "up-and-running" yet?   Just like finding kindle on amazon. When Nate has already placed and order for one, I still could not find it on amazon.com. Maybe in a day or two things will clear up. Another thing, why did you say Quote: 
 Cannot you get the same service via USB? | |
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