"I'd like to read this book on Kindle"

omk3 · 10-15-2010, 07:18 PM

Such a nice little link under all the books we'd like to see as ebooks but are not yet available in that format.

It does make me feel like my opinion is important to Amazon (and maybe even the publishers-!-) but does anyone know if it makes any difference at all whether you click the link or not? I can't really imagine Amazon saying to a publisher or copyright holder, "Hey, someone requested your book in digital form, you'd better do it quick!"

Have any of you seen a book they requested as ebook actually appear as an ebook later?

cvkemp · 10-15-2010, 07:25 PM

not yet

JaneD · 10-15-2010, 07:36 PM

Nothing that I've personally clicked, but someone on the Amazon forums recently reported that a book they'd clicked had become available on kindle. Just don't know whether it was due to the clicking or not...it's very possible it was a coincidence.

I'd suspect they'd need quite a few clicks before the publisher would think there was a big appetite for a particular title.

malliemcg · 10-15-2010, 09:07 PM

I'd like the equivalent for the kindle store. I'd like to buy this in <<Australia>> there are too many books just not available, and as a consumer, there is no good reason for it. Perhaps such an action would encourage publishers to pull their fingers out...

krazy4katz · 10-15-2010, 09:13 PM

I have seen kindle books appear after I have clicked, but it normally takes a long time, and it is probably less than 10% of the total clicked. It's difficult to tell whether the clicking helps. Hopefully Amazon presents the statistics to the publishers. On the other hand, it may be a way of getting us to stick around -- hoping that we are making a difference. Either way, it is a good marketing strategy.

k4k

JMikeD · 10-15-2010, 10:04 PM

I seem to recall a statement by someone presumably in the know that the clicks are accumulated for a period (such a month) and then sent to the publishers.

Viseguy · 10-16-2010, 02:34 AM

Bought Nicole Krauss's new novel, Great House, for the Kindle today, and tried to buy her earlier one, The History of Love, but it wasn't available as an e-book so I clicked "I'd like to read...." The NYT review of Great House talks about how it reworks some of the same themes from The History of Love, so it'll be interesting to see if the new book generates demand for an electronic version of the earlier one.

Bikeridr · 10-16-2010, 07:21 AM

I have to agree with malliemcg. I'd prefer a "I demand this ebook available in Europe" in Kindle Store.
Georestriction is utterly stupid!

Rie142 · 10-16-2010, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omk3

Such a nice little link under all the books we'd like to see as ebooks but are not yet available in that format.

Have any of you seen a book they requested as ebook actually appear as an ebook later?

Yes I have seen several.

OakIris · 10-16-2010, 01:31 PM

It is good to hear that some people have seen books become eBooks after they have clicked the Amazon link requesting it. I haven't yet seen any of my requests granted, but in hopes that it makes a difference - eventually - I will continue to use the link.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bikeridr

I have to agree with malliemcg. I'd prefer a "I demand this ebook available in Europe" in Kindle Store.
Georestriction is utterly stupid!

I am in the US so haven't noticed the geographical restrictions that have been placed on some (many?) eBooks - I am sure there are some that aren't available in the US, though - but agree with the non-US folks here that it makes very little sense. Is the restriction placed on them by the publishers due to some obscure international law? I can't imagine the authors have anything to do with it - certainly they would want their creations available to the widest possible audience. On the other hand, wouldn't the publishers also want to sell to the widest possible audience??

Holly

ProfCrash · 10-16-2010, 04:51 PM

It probably helps Amazon let the Publisher know what books folks are looking for and could effect which books the Publishers put forward.

Connallmac · 10-16-2010, 04:57 PM

Georestrictions stem largely from the rights that publishers negotiated with authors. If a publisher did not specify in their contract with an author that they had the right to publish and ebook version of "Book X" in Australia, they simply have no legal right to sell "Book X" in Australia.

OakIris · 10-17-2010, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connallmac

Georestrictions stem largely from the rights that publishers negotiated with authors. If a publisher did not specify in their contract with an author that they had the right to publish and ebook version of "Book X" in Australia, they simply have no legal right to sell "Book X" in Australia.

So the author has to bring a list of countries, including the USA, in which she or he wants their book to be published, otherwise it's only available in Massachusetts, (just as an example

)?? That doesn't seem as if it would be in the best interests of either the author or the publisher, and still makes little sense to me. But then, I have no experience with publishing nor with what an author goes through in order to get a book (eBook or pBook) published and distributed, so I just have the point of view of a reader. As a reader, I think all books should be available to all people everywhere.

Holly

JMikeD · 10-17-2010, 01:22 PM

If you are a self-publisher author, your ebooks are available anywhere, no restrictions. In the old model of printed books, if your books are sold through a publisher, that publisher may make deals with publishers in other countries for those companies to print and sell the books there (it saves shipping and distribution costs for the first publisher, and provides for some localization like translations). This is an agreement between the two publishers that neither will sell into the other's area. The first publisher gets a cut of the selling price. This is a reasonable way to handle things if you have to transport physical items. It's not necessary in the ebook world, but these agreements are for the most part still in effect, meaning that some ebooks cannot be sold into other countries until the agreement expires, which may take many years.

The author has no say in any of this.

I would be surprised if this model lasts much longer. It may be that in future contracts, ebooks will be excepted from such contracts.

10-15-2010, 07:18 PM	#1
omk3 Wizard Posts: 1,454 Karma: 37243 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Europe Device: pocketbook 360, kindle 4	"I'd like to read this book on Kindle" Such a nice little link under all the books we'd like to see as ebooks but are not yet available in that format. It does make me feel like my opinion is important to Amazon (and maybe even the publishers-!-) but does anyone know if it makes any difference at all whether you click the link or not? I can't really imagine Amazon saying to a publisher or copyright holder, "Hey, someone requested your book in digital form, you'd better do it quick!" Have any of you seen a book they requested as ebook actually appear as an ebook later?

10-16-2010, 02:34 AM	#7
Viseguy Just a kid from Bklyn Posts: 135 Karma: 4448 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NYC Device: Kindle 3 Wi-Fi; Samsung Galaxy Tab 7	Hope it works for "The History of Love" Bought Nicole Krauss's new novel, Great House, for the Kindle today, and tried to buy her earlier one, The History of Love, but it wasn't available as an e-book so I clicked "I'd like to read...." The NYT review of Great House talks about how it reworks some of the same themes from The History of Love, so it'll be interesting to see if the new book generates demand for an electronic version of the earlier one.

10-16-2010, 07:21 AM	#8
Bikeridr Information Acquirer Posts: 436 Karma: 4265156 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Latvia, Rigas Rajons Device: Kindle 3 International, Pocketbook Color	I have to agree with malliemcg. I'd prefer a "I demand this ebook available in Europe" in Kindle Store. Georestriction is utterly stupid! Last edited by Bikeridr; 10-16-2010 at 07:22 AM. Reason: Replaced "want" with "demand"

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cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,431 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	not yet

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JaneD Addict Posts: 324 Karma: 1057749 Join Date: May 2010 Location: LA, CA Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2013	Nothing that I've personally clicked, but someone on the Amazon forums recently reported that a book they'd clicked had become available on kindle. Just don't know whether it was due to the clicking or not...it's very possible it was a coincidence. I'd suspect they'd need quite a few clicks before the publisher would think there was a big appetite for a particular title.

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malliemcg Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Canberra, ACT. Device: iPhone, Kindle3-WiFi	I'd like the equivalent for the kindle store. I'd like to buy this in <<Australia>> there are too many books just not available, and as a consumer, there is no good reason for it. Perhaps such an action would encourage publishers to pull their fingers out...

10-15-2010, 09:13 PM	#5
krazy4katz Addict Posts: 367 Karma: 1552656 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: [Kindle 1, Kindle 3 (KK)], Kindle Voyage, iPad Pro	I have seen kindle books appear after I have clicked, but it normally takes a long time, and it is probably less than 10% of the total clicked. It's difficult to tell whether the clicking helps. Hopefully Amazon presents the statistics to the publishers. On the other hand, it may be a way of getting us to stick around -- hoping that we are making a difference. Either way, it is a good marketing strategy. k4k

10-15-2010, 10:04 PM	#6
JMikeD Evangelist Posts: 475 Karma: 15000 Join Date: Jul 2008 Device: Various and sundry	I seem to recall a statement by someone presumably in the know that the clicks are accumulated for a period (such a month) and then sent to the publishers.

10-16-2010, 04:51 PM	#11
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	It probably helps Amazon let the Publisher know what books folks are looking for and could effect which books the Publishers put forward.

10-16-2010, 04:57 PM	#12
Connallmac Transplanted NYer Posts: 455 Karma: 520286 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Eastern IN Device: Kindle Fire HD 8.9", Kindle Fire HD 7", Kindle Touch	Georestrictions stem largely from the rights that publishers negotiated with authors. If a publisher did not specify in their contract with an author that they had the right to publish and ebook version of "Book X" in Australia, they simply have no legal right to sell "Book X" in Australia.

10-17-2010, 01:22 PM	#14
JMikeD Evangelist Posts: 475 Karma: 15000 Join Date: Jul 2008 Device: Various and sundry	If you are a self-publisher author, your ebooks are available anywhere, no restrictions. In the old model of printed books, if your books are sold through a publisher, that publisher may make deals with publishers in other countries for those companies to print and sell the books there (it saves shipping and distribution costs for the first publisher, and provides for some localization like translations). This is an agreement between the two publishers that neither will sell into the other's area. The first publisher gets a cut of the selling price. This is a reasonable way to handle things if you have to transport physical items. It's not necessary in the ebook world, but these agreements are for the most part still in effect, meaning that some ebooks cannot be sold into other countries until the agreement expires, which may take many years. The author has no say in any of this. I would be surprised if this model lasts much longer. It may be that in future contracts, ebooks will be excepted from such contracts.