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Old 10-07-2010, 02:38 PM   #136
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My two cents. I like the dictionary approach (mostly because of the feedback).

I don't mind typing an extra key (e.g. psal) because the feedback suggests it should be "psal" as soon as I typed the familiar two letters "ps". As long as it does not involve shift/sym/alt, IMHO it is user-friendly.

(That said, I don't like Alt-q for 1 as always!)

The '.' works instead of ':'. That's good.

Typing "psal 21.1" shows Psal 2:11 as top, followed by Psal 21:1. With the down key I can go to Ps 21:1 quickly. IMHO, I appreciate that there is no context text, just a list of plain ole references is easy to use.

That said, I don't like GW translation too much... NASB/ESV with this dictionary navigation will be great! Will pay for it!
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:22 AM   #137
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r0b0d0c,
Please read the pm that I've just sent you.

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I have come up with a way to fool the new search algorithm on Kindle 3 so the old DVJ is back! If you want it, please send a file of the OSNOVA Bible that you want to be replaced to my email on gmail.com (my handle, then @, then gmail.com). Specifically, the periods will no longer be ignored (jn.1.11 will lead to jn.1.11 and not jn.11.1).

Also for those who want the new all-letter DVJ, do the same. I only have the paragraphed KJV in this new format.
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:43 AM   #138
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Please read the pm that I've just sent you.

All,

I have come up with a way to fool the new search algorithm on Kindle 3 so the old DVJ is back! If you want it, please send a file of the OSNOVA Bible that you want to be replaced to my email on gmail.com (my handle, then @, then gmail.com). Specifically, the periods will no longer be ignored (jn.1.11 will lead to jn.1.11 and not jn.11.1).

Also for those who want the new all-letter DVJ, do the same. I only have the paragraphed KJV in this new format.
I have a K2 and a K3, with the KJV w/DVJ on my K2. Will the new one work on both?
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:37 PM   #139
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Yes, it should work on both. To be sure, I'll check tonight with my K DX.

I forgot to mention that given that the files that I will send will not be processed through Amazon, you will not be able to see other people's highlights and use Amazon's archiving, page syncing with other devices, etc. functions. Personally, I do not mind but other people could.

I want to update the Amazon's editions with the new files to enforce the old DVJ method. I see that some people like the new way DVJ works, so this gives me a pause.
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Amazon improved DVJ is still best !

I like it the way it ended with the Amazon search IMRPOVEMENT. The periods do not have to be used saving additional keystrokes.

Plus, its safer to use the <ALT> key for numbers just in case those letters on the top row have to be used as letters.

In Bible Study speed of finding verses is of prime importance. Any changes to the present method would reduce the speed.

In cases where those other verses show on the first press of the 5-way key could also be very important if a Bible chapter was being reviewed. Just pressing <BACK> on the Kindle WiFi gets one a way to go to MANY verses without any other key strokes (verses 1-30 for example) for example jn31 gets one easy access to all verses in John 3.

So far in the Bible Studies, when I've used the Osnova / Amazon improved DVJ, I've beat all other participants to the verse every time.

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Old 10-08-2010, 07:04 PM   #141
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So far in the Bible Studies, when I've used the Osnova / Amazon improved DVJ, I've beat all other participants to the verse every time.
Sorry, I don't mean to intrude (and please don't take my humor the wrong way), but I got a big chuckle imagining this competitive "race" to a pertinent verse in a Bible study group. Was there a prize for winning?
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:07 PM   #142
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I am glad you like it so much.

Should I offer two versions (with old DVJ and new DVJ)? I am afraid of that thought. Even now people get confused between a paragraphed copy, verse-per-line copy, and TTS copy.

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Oh, haven't you heard about the competitive Bible Study open-that-verse race?
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:46 PM   #143
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Old 10-08-2010, 09:18 PM   #144
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Yes, it should work on both. To be sure, I'll check tonight with my K DX.

I forgot to mention that given that the files that I will send will not be processed through Amazon, you will not be able to see other people's highlights and use Amazon's archiving, page syncing with other devices, etc. functions. Personally, I do not mind but other people could.

I want to update the Amazon's editions with the new files to enforce the old DVJ method. I see that some people like the new way DVJ works, so this gives me a pause.
Thanks, OS! I just sent the e-mail.
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And I've just sent a response with the file
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I very much like it with the periods. To me it is much quicker to enter two periods than to make sure I select the proper result from the search results...

osnova, will you be updating the Amazon copies with this new development? Or does your new method not survive Amazon's conversion process?
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We'll see if it survives. I have just updated the files on Amazon. It will take a while for them to "review" and publish.

sirmaru, if you see that others like period-agnostic DVJ, ask them to email me.
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Would anyone who is native in French be willing to translate the following text into French (a free copy of Louis Segond will be the reward).

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Kindle French Bible – La Sainte Biblia (Louis Segond avec DVJ)


Features of this version of the Bible:

– Direct Verse Jump, a revolutionary new method to open the exact verse you need in mere seconds (note that it will not work on PC and iPad due to the limitations in the Amazon's Kindle software for PC and iPad)
– two other ways to navigate between books and chapters: (i) using a hyperlinked table of contents; and (ii) pressing the joystick right or left to move between books of the Bible. Once you learn all of the three navigation methods, you will be able to open any verse in your Kindle Bible as fast as (or even faster than) in your paper copy
– easy to determine where you are in the Bible
– as any Kindle book, the French Bible is searchable; however, when you first install the file please wait for the Kindle to index the whole Bible (most of the time about 10 minutes; however, sometimes up to 8-10 hours). The file is large and it takes a long time to index. For this reason, the DVJ navigation method will be available only after the book has been indexed

Direct Verse Jump: new navigation method using the search functionality:

In this version, all you need to do is type an abbreviated book name (see the table of contents for the complete list), then period, then chapter number, period again, and then verse number and finally press “find” twice (you need not wait for the Kindle to display the search results) and you will be looking at that particular verse in seconds. If you just need to open the first verse of any chapter then the verse number is not necessary. Do not forget periods and use only the abbreviations that are listed in the table of contents.

The DVJ abbreviations are standard for almost all OSNOVA Bible publications and as the result, they are English-based. If you want French-based abbreviations please email OSNOVA at the email provided below.

For example, if you wish to select chapter 3 of Genesis, you would:
1. type the standard abbreviation for Genesis (see the table of contents for a complete list), then period, and finally number "3" in other words: ge.3
2. click “find” (or just enter if you have Kindle 3) twice and you are there.

For John 3:16, you type "jn.3.16" and double click “find” (or just "enter" if you have a Kindle 3).

Note that you should put the chapter number even for books that have only one chapter. For example, the Epistle from Jude verse 5 would translate to "jud.1.5" and a double click.

Please note that this edition is not TTS(text-to-speech)-friendly due to the way TTS works on the Kindle.

For other publications by OSNOVA, please visit the OSNOVA Press website at http://osnovapress.wordpress.com/

If you have any questions or concerns at all about this (or any other of my publications), please email me at osnova@gmail.com
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HCSB and DVJ?

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If it doesn't have Direct Verse Jump it is USELESS. Does it have it?
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