Oh My - Controversial Artwork Destroyed!

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

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As someone who didn't know until just now that Loveland was a town,....

What's even more confusing is that Loveland,CO is a town north of Denver, CO and the Loveland Ski Resort is west of Denver (in the mountains) and I even after 30 years here still confuse them on occasion...

[astra]

Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

I have no objection to people believing what they want to. It's only when they start insisting other people believe the same things, or respect them for what they believe I have issues. Respect is optional for anything, imo. Personally, I tend to respect actions more than beliefs anyway. (I shouldn't have to add this, but I'm going to. Just because I don't automatically grant respect to a person's beliefs doesn't mean I am rude to them etc. I try to act in a manner I consider decent towards everyone).

I meant my post to be heavily saturated with sarcasm and cynicism.
Obviously, I failed

[poohbear_nc]

Originally Posted by kennyc

What's even more confusing is that Loveland,CO is a town north of Denver, CO and the Loveland Ski Resort is west of Denver (in the mountains) and I even after 30 years here still confuse them on occasion...

Am I totally off track here, or wasn't Loveland where "The Shining" was set?

[ShortNCuddlyAm]

Originally Posted by astra

I meant my post to be heavily saturated with sarcasm and cynicism.
Obviously, I failed

Nah - the rolling eyes did imbue the sarcasm and cynicism. Wasn't disagreeing, either (or at least I didn't mean to sound like I was) - I was just stating more blandly that beliefs should be accorded automatic respect just because some-one believes them and they've (the beliefs, not the person) have been around for a while.

Except I think I was being too verbose. And sounding like I was debating. One of those days...

[BenG]

There is a picture of the artwork in the slideshow under the video links. It scrolls through photos of the woman and briefly shows the offending piece.

[BenG]

Originally Posted by poohbear_nc

Am I totally off track here, or wasn't Loveland where "The Shining" was set?

King was staying in the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park not far from Loveland when he got the idea for The Shining, and some of the interiors of the hotel were used in the movie.

When I was there a few years ago I wanted a picture of myself in front of the hotel holding an axe but I didn't have one handy.

[obs20]

This is like a real life South Park episode.

[happy_terd]

I think we treat the Christians a lot differently when it comes to respecting their religion than we do the Muslims. *shrug*

Dont burn the Quran but to hell with Jesus art. I dont know what the art was of (cant see a picture) but even if that wasnt the case here it usually is the case elsewhere. I love it.
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Personally do both...in my opinion. People should have the freedom to express themselves and I should have the freedom to hit them. It is all part of the circle of life.

[astra]

Originally Posted by happy_terd

Personally do both...in my opinion. People should have the freedom to express themselves and I should have the freedom to hit them. It is all part of the circle of life.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by desertgrandma

There is a universal rendering of what Jesus might have looked like......Its pretty clear that even the small pics show thats what it is.

He almost unquestionably was clean-shaven and had short hair - picture the typical "marine". That's what the normal fashion was in the 1st century Roman empire, and that's what all depictions of Jesus showed until about the 8th century, when the (then-current) fashion of long hair and beard took over. Any depiction of Jesus as bearded or with long hair is anachronistic and almost unquestionably wrong.

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by poohbear_nc

Am I totally off track here, or wasn't Loveland where "The Shining" was set?

Originally Posted by BenG

King was staying in the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park not far from Loveland when he got the idea for The Shining, and some of the interiors of the hotel were used in the movie.

When I was there a few years ago I wanted a picture of myself in front of the hotel holding an axe but I didn't have one handy.

Loveland, the town is a far piece east of Estes Park, headed out to the plains. Loveland the ski area is a far piece south and then west of Estes Park at the entrance to Eisenhower Tunnel.

My Dad was a part owner of the Stanley for a couple of years. *sigh*

anyway, he took the Stanley and put it up Trail Ridge which closes in the winter.

Originally Posted by HarryT

He almost unquestionably was clean-shaven and had short hair - picture the typical "marine". That's what the normal fashion was in the 1st century Roman empire, and that's what all depictions of Jesus showed until about the 8th century, when the (then-current) fashion of long hair and beard took over. Any depiction of Jesus as bearded or with long hair is anachronistic and almost unquestionably wrong.

I got kicked out of Sunday school for saying there was a good chance Jesus could have been black...

[BenG]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

Loveland, the town is a far piece east of Estes Park

From South Carolina, where I lived at the time, they seemed pretty close together.

[Piper_]

Originally Posted by HarryT

He almost unquestionably was clean-shaven and had short hair - picture the typical "marine". That's what the normal fashion was in the 1st century Roman empire, and that's what all depictions of Jesus showed until about the 8th century, when the (then-current) fashion of long hair and beard took over. Any depiction of Jesus as bearded or with long hair is anachronistic and almost unquestionably wrong.

I don't know about the hair length - Nazarines kept theirs long, though, and wasn't he? Jesus of Nazareth ...?

But I'd be shocked if he or any other Jew at the time shaved their beards, or even their heads.

[Falcao]

Originally Posted by TGS

But what if other people's beliefs are wrong or dangerous?

Wrong? Who can say what's right or wrong?

Dangerous to whom? If a belief is dangerous to unbelievers, then believers are not following Juarez's advice about respecting non-believers.

About the OP, I think that if somebody or something is cherished to some people (name it, Christ, Buddha, Mohammed, the cross, the crescent moon, etc.), then I don't understand why people who don't respect the cherished thing, later got surprised by the reaction to their deeds.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by obs20

This is like a real life South Park episode.

Isn't it!