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Old 10-06-2010, 10:00 PM   #1
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Oh My - Controversial Artwork Destroyed!
This has been going on for a few days now. Protests etc...and now this:

Witness: Woman uses crowbar to bash into display, destroy controversial artwork featuring Jesus in Loveland....

http://www.9news.com/news/article.as...6808&catid=339
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Old 10-06-2010, 10:05 PM   #2
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Why is it more special if Jesus is depicted on a Wednesday, or any other day?
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Old 10-06-2010, 10:09 PM   #3
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If you take your religion seriously, its sacrilegious .

Why do people do "in your face" stuff and then act all surprised when it bites them in the butt?
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Old 10-06-2010, 10:17 PM   #4
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Is there a pic of the art on that page, or anywhere else? I'm not seeing it, so I can't tell if the people who are upset are jumping the gun on what it's showing or not. The man who assembled it says it isn't really Jesus. ?

If it looks enough like Jesus, then, well, you know... lol I'm agnostic, but I these sort of "in your face" displays smack of juvenile attention-__ing behavior.

The libertarian in me figures they get what they deserve.
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If you take your religion seriously, its sacrilegious .

Why do people do "in your face" stuff and then act all surprised when it bites them in the butt?
Oh, I didn't see this before I posted! Yes, my thoughts exactly, and much more pithily put.
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Old 10-06-2010, 10:23 PM   #6
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I don't think there's a pic of it ... at least none I've seen maybe a smallish one there in the article??

Anyway who knows what Jesus looked like, etc....
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I don't think there's a pic of it ... at least none I've seen maybe a smallish one there in the article??

Anyway who knows what Jesus looked like, etc....
There is a universal rendering of what Jesus might have looked like......Its pretty clear that even the small pics show thats what it is.
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People should respect other people's beliefs.

"Among individuals as among nations, the respect to other people's rights is peace"
-- Benito Juarez, Mexican president (1858-72)
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People should respect other people's beliefs.

"Among individuals as among nations, the respect to other people's rights is peace"
-- Benito Juarez, Mexican president (1858-72)
But what if other people's beliefs are wrong or dangerous?


PS. Kenny, could you edit the thread title - it's got a spelling mistake that's annoying me and I might be moved to destroy something.
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If you take your religion seriously, its sacrilegious .

Why do people do "in your face" stuff and then act all surprised when it bites them in the butt?
Absolutely.
Salman Rushdie should have known better.
Theo van Gogh was asking for it.
And as for atheists — well...
And you can't even trust the clergy to take religion seriously.


Yes, if anyone says anything about your religion that offends you, you're fully justified to destroy their property, threaten them, incite people to murder them, or even murder them yourself. After all, your religion is true, isn't it?
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If you take your religion seriously, its sacrilegious .

Why do people do "in your face" stuff and then act all surprised when it bites them in the butt?
Like telling atheists they have no morals, yeah I don't get it?

Seriously though, I don't buy into this "beliefs should be respected" idea that gets thrown around. You can justify all sorts of crazy stuff by hiding behind your 'respected' beliefs. Beliefs should be challenged, they will stand or fall on their merit and the arguments of those defending them.
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But what if other people's beliefs are wrong or dangerous?


PS. Kenny, could you edit the thread title - it's got a spelling mistake that's annoying me and I might be moved to destroy something.
Sorry about the typo....

Maybe a mod can fix it....
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There is a universal rendering of what Jesus might have looked like......Its pretty clear that even the small pics show thats what it is.
But that's just your belief, right.
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Yes, if anyone says anything about your religion that offends you, you're fully justified to destroy their property, threaten them, incite people to murder them, or even murder them yourself. After all, your religion is true, isn't it?
Freedom of religion. Let people practice it the way their religion dictates it. We should respect it.
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This has been going on for a few days now. Protests etc...and now this:

Witness: Woman uses crowbar to bash into display, destroy controversial artwork featuring Jesus in Loveland....
As someone who didn't know until just now that Loveland was a town, I could see why an artwork that looked to be called "Jesus in Loveland" might be seen as controversial

(And having read the article, that would seem like a reasonable subtitle for the piece, assuming the artist did actually intend to depict Jesus...)

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Seriously though, I don't buy into this "beliefs should be respected" idea that gets thrown around. You can justify all sorts of crazy stuff by hiding behind your 'respected' beliefs. Beliefs should be challenged, they will stand or fall on their merit and the arguments of those defending them.
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Freedom of religion. Let people practice it the way their religion dictates it. We should respect it.
I have no objection to people believing what they want to. It's only when they start insisting other people believe the same things, or respect them for what they believe I have issues. Respect is optional for anything, imo. Personally, I tend to respect actions more than beliefs anyway. (I shouldn't have to add this, but I'm going to. Just because I don't automatically grant respect to a person's beliefs doesn't mean I am rude to them etc. I try to act in a manner I consider decent towards everyone)

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Why do people do "in your face" stuff and then act all surprised when it bites them in the butt?
Sometimes because they genuinely don't think what they are doing is all that "in your face"; or because they are so convinced of their own arguments they just can't conceive that anyone would take it the wrong way; or because what they are reacting against is something they consider to be "in your face"; or to draw attention to something they feel is important when other means have failed.

And yes, sometimes just for the attention.
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