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HappyMartin · 11-06-2007, 02:22 AM

Yes I agree. Low light readability will depend on the contrast, i.e. the difference in brightness between brightest white and darkest black. White is white is also a little misleading. We call many things white but generally white is something that reflects a high proportion of the light striking it and all wavelengths equally. Some things are whiter than others is what I am trying to say in my clumsy fashion.

HarryT · 11-06-2007, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Looks nice. But, that packaging isn't very "green" is it. Seems like alot of wasted space in that box!

They use the same box for the basic and deluxe packages. It's a lot "fuller" with the Deluxe package.

HarryT · 11-06-2007, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple dave

Thanks Robert. The leather cover looks much better than the prs500 one. How is the readability in low light situation considering it's just 4 gray level and not 8 like prs505?

The readability is excellent. I can comfortably read the Gen3 in light levels in which I'd need a reading light with the PRS500. Comparing the PRS500 and Gen3 side by side, the Gen3's screen is a lot "whiter", hence better contrast between the black text and the background. I'll try and post a "side by side" photo when I get home from work tonight.

Dave Berk · 11-06-2007, 06:08 AM

Thanks. Though what I would really like to see is a side by side comparison with the 505...

HarryT · 11-06-2007, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple dave

Thanks. Though what I would really like to see is a side by side comparison with the 505...

They would look identical - for text, at least. It's the same screen.

The 505 should, in theory, show slightly more detail in graphical images, since it has 8 grey-scales rather than the 4 of the Gen3, but I very much doubt that you'll see any practical difference. I don't see any real difference between the appearance of images on the 4-grey-scale 500 compared to the 16-grey-scale iLiad - the dithering algorithm does a good job of "synthesizing" extra grey scales.

tcmoon · 11-06-2007, 07:35 AM

cant get book recognized as a reading device in mobipocket! shows as a storage device.

Ortep · 11-06-2007, 07:49 AM

Do you have the latest version?

HarryT · 11-06-2007, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcmoon

cant get book recognized as a reading device in mobipocket! shows as a storage device.

Please don't post the same question to multiple threads. I've answered you in the "Problem Reports" thread.

astra · 11-06-2007, 08:44 AM

What I am most curious is side by side prs-505 and cybook. To compare their whitness, but I guess it is next to impossible to obtain because no one who recently bought 505 will also buy cybook.

HappyMartin · 11-06-2007, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astra_lestat

What I am most curious is side by side prs-505 and cybook. To compare their whitness, but I guess it is next to impossible to obtain because no one who recently bought 505 will also buy cybook.

Harry might

Robert1325 · 11-06-2007, 09:34 AM

I took the cybook on the train and underground today, had no problems reading in different light conditions. Some paperback books are more difficult to read. I would not take the reader with me without the leather case. it's just to thin and the screen is not protected without the leather case.

IreneDelse · 11-06-2007, 04:06 PM

Great! I got the email notification of shipping this morning, and this evening the package was waiting for me at a neighbour's appartment. Of course, I'm in Paris, so it just had to cross the town to get to me.

Opening the package, I was impressed by the thinness of the Cybook Gen3. And it's no heavier than a paperback. But it feels sturdy enough to be used as an everyday reader, not just as a hi-tech toy. Though I wouldn't put it in a travel bag without its leather case, too.

I had no problem charging the battery, using the charger included in the Deluxe pack. Charging time is about 3 hours, that way.

Booting the reader, I was very to navigate and read. A few e-books were already available in the reader's internal memory, which was a nice surprise. I don't think I saw a mention of that on Bookeen's website, anyway! Included are two recent SF e-books: Charles Stross's novel "Accelerando", Cory Doctorow's novella "I, Robot"; plus a few public domain e-books in French and English, and previews from a dozen of Mobipocket e-books, from "Da Vinci Code" to Clinton's autobiography to "Internet for Dummies".

The one sheet quick start notice (in French and English) is very clear and useful, but I couldn't find the complete user's manual in e-book format that it said would be in the reader's memory. It's a little annoying, but at least, that didn't keep me from using the reader, because once you have it in hand, navigation is quite intuitive. The buttons on the side are neatly incised with icons depicting their use (switch to the music library, go, back to the general menu, etc.), too.

I had no problem exchanging files with my computer, too. The Cybook and the SD card in it were quickly recognized as external volumes by Ubuntu.

All in all, I'm glad I bought it. The ability to hold a whole library in a device the size of a single book is just what I needed.

Just one thing, though: if you have small hands, be careful to hold the device in both hands to read! In some photos I've seen on the Net, it was a man with big hands holding the Cybook.

JSWolf · 11-06-2007, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleDe

I am a bit surprised by this sort of question. There is no reason for the number of gray scale levels to influence the brightness of the display or readability. White is White no matter how many grays there are. Cybook has 16 levels of gray but achieve the rest by dithering which is done quite well from the test that have been posted. It might be worth reading how e-ink is accomplished on their web site if this is confusing.

Dale

The Gen3 has 4 levels of gray because of the controller being used. The only eink device that has 16 shades is the iLiad.

JSWolf · 11-06-2007, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astra_lestat

What I am most curious is side by side prs-505 and cybook. To compare their whiteness, but I guess it is next to impossible to obtain because no one who recently bought 505 will also buy cybook.

They should be the same as the 505 and Gen3 both use the same 6" Vizplex screen. The only difference is that the 505 achieves eight shades and the Gen3 four due to different controllers.

bob_ninja · 11-06-2007, 08:59 PM

I am still charging mine from USB interface, so didn't play for too long.
Again, dimensions are nice - bigger than PDAs but smaller than laptops. Very thin, really cool

and light of course.

Matte finish is great, although it shows you how dirty your hands are very quickly

Interface is very intuitive. Nice to see arrows adjust to all the portrait/landscape/flip combinations. I copied a mix of literature and technical docs, so I'll play with it tonight and tomorrow. As we are reviewing some docs at work, I'll try it for my work as well (including diagrams and such).

So far I am very impressed. To be balanced, there is one minor problem I found with the buttons (Ok and arrows). They are rather close to each other so I already pressed Ok by accident (when I wanted down arrow). Also they require a fair bit of pressure. Since the device is so thin, I try to place another finger underneath when pressing buttons to reduce pressure on the frame (avoid twisting it). It is not a big deal. Just have to be careful when using them. Also I wonder why +/- don't function as page up/down when not using audio functions? If audio is not active then these buttons are disabled, so might as well activate them for page up/down.

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11-06-2007, 02:22 AM	#16
HappyMartin Martin Kristiansen Posts: 1,546 Karma: 8480958 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Johannesburg Device: Kindle International Ipad 2	Yes I agree. Low light readability will depend on the contrast, i.e. the difference in brightness between brightest white and darkest black. White is white is also a little misleading. We call many things white but generally white is something that reflects a high proportion of the light striking it and all wavelengths equally. Some things are whiter than others is what I am trying to say in my clumsy fashion.

11-06-2007, 06:08 AM	#19
Dave Berk Fanatic Posts: 574 Karma: 138556 Join Date: May 2006 Device: PRS505	Thanks. Though what I would really like to see is a side by side comparison with the 505...

11-06-2007, 07:35 AM	#21
tcmoon Connoisseur Posts: 51 Karma: 53 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: slate pc	cant get book recognized as a reading device in mobipocket! shows as a storage device.

11-06-2007, 07:49 AM	#22
Ortep Fanatic Posts: 527 Karma: 470 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Netherlands Device: Kindle Oasis	Do you have the latest version?

11-06-2007, 08:44 AM	#24
astra The Introvert Posts: 8,307 Karma: 1000077497 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500	What I am most curious is side by side prs-505 and cybook. To compare their whitness, but I guess it is next to impossible to obtain because no one who recently bought 505 will also buy cybook.

11-06-2007, 09:34 AM	#26
Robert1325 Enthusiast Posts: 25 Karma: 44 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Paper, Cybook g3	I took the cybook on the train and underground today, had no problems reading in different light conditions. Some paperback books are more difficult to read. I would not take the reader with me without the leather case. it's just to thin and the screen is not protected without the leather case.

11-06-2007, 04:06 PM	#27
IreneDelse Groupie Posts: 154 Karma: 589 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Paris Device: Bookeen Cybook Gen3 & Opus	Great! I got the email notification of shipping this morning, and this evening the package was waiting for me at a neighbour's appartment. Of course, I'm in Paris, so it just had to cross the town to get to me. Opening the package, I was impressed by the thinness of the Cybook Gen3. And it's no heavier than a paperback. But it feels sturdy enough to be used as an everyday reader, not just as a hi-tech toy. Though I wouldn't put it in a travel bag without its leather case, too. I had no problem charging the battery, using the charger included in the Deluxe pack. Charging time is about 3 hours, that way. Booting the reader, I was very to navigate and read. A few e-books were already available in the reader's internal memory, which was a nice surprise. I don't think I saw a mention of that on Bookeen's website, anyway! Included are two recent SF e-books: Charles Stross's novel "Accelerando", Cory Doctorow's novella "I, Robot"; plus a few public domain e-books in French and English, and previews from a dozen of Mobipocket e-books, from "Da Vinci Code" to Clinton's autobiography to "Internet for Dummies". The one sheet quick start notice (in French and English) is very clear and useful, but I couldn't find the complete user's manual in e-book format that it said would be in the reader's memory. It's a little annoying, but at least, that didn't keep me from using the reader, because once you have it in hand, navigation is quite intuitive. The buttons on the side are neatly incised with icons depicting their use (switch to the music library, go, back to the general menu, etc.), too. I had no problem exchanging files with my computer, too. The Cybook and the SD card in it were quickly recognized as external volumes by Ubuntu. All in all, I'm glad I bought it. The ability to hold a whole library in a device the size of a single book is just what I needed. Just one thing, though: if you have small hands, be careful to hold the device in both hands to read! In some photos I've seen on the Net, it was a man with big hands holding the Cybook.

11-06-2007, 08:59 PM	#30
bob_ninja Addict Posts: 208 Karma: 582 Join Date: Aug 2006 Device: Zire71	I am still charging mine from USB interface, so didn't play for too long. Again, dimensions are nice - bigger than PDAs but smaller than laptops. Very thin, really cool and light of course. Matte finish is great, although it shows you how dirty your hands are very quickly Interface is very intuitive. Nice to see arrows adjust to all the portrait/landscape/flip combinations. I copied a mix of literature and technical docs, so I'll play with it tonight and tomorrow. As we are reviewing some docs at work, I'll try it for my work as well (including diagrams and such). So far I am very impressed. To be balanced, there is one minor problem I found with the buttons (Ok and arrows). They are rather close to each other so I already pressed Ok by accident (when I wanted down arrow). Also they require a fair bit of pressure. Since the device is so thin, I try to place another finger underneath when pressing buttons to reduce pressure on the frame (avoid twisting it). It is not a big deal. Just have to be careful when using them. Also I wonder why +/- don't function as page up/down when not using audio functions? If audio is not active then these buttons are disabled, so might as well activate them for page up/down.