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No, I didn't know that - that's very interesting!
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Re: reopening the debate.
Obviously you'll let us know if we step out of line, Harry, but at the moment I think we're on a slightly different topic - i.e. how to conduct an unprovable debate - and using the recently closed thread as an example, rather than continuing the debate from that thread. Graham |
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Again the target audience isn't true believers-- the audience is people who are willing to question. And a bit of satire/analogy can point out the silliness of beliefs (like the one about the hopping hamsters.) I don't expect the true believers to laugh along with me. The point is to show that something that they believe to the very heart of their being to be true and base their entire lives around to be silly superstition. It is saying that something that is taken very, very seriously by them, by their families, their friends, their community, and their culture is silly enough to be a big joke. In what way would you propose that one present that so that they "laugh with it" too? I don't think it likely to find a way that they won't be offended by that. We aren't attempting to laugh with them.
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Don't you think though, that rippin on people who don't share your beliefs is just a little pointless. Mocking them is just gonna turn up the tension. And it doesn't show them how sill there beliefs are.
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Trouble is, GRB, that it's essentially an unwinnable debate. The atheists will say "where's the evidence?" and the believers will say "it's not a matter of evidence, but of faith", and neither side is going to convince the other of their case.
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I was looking at that thread a bit ... (actually because it was really funny in parts) but it seems that the believers were talking about morality and its fount being the godhead. Of course the believers can't come up with the physical evidence... but the arguments pretty interesting.
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Unless you made close to 300 posts in that thread in a matter of a few hours, I think you're good.
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