Atheist zealots a heavy cross to bear

[terrazoids]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

What has my soul ever done for me?

I'm not sure I care what happens to it after I shuffle off - my spleen on the other hand I am quite attached to; I will miss it when the time comes.

Do you take your soul seriously, or is it a joke?

[darknessangel]

Originally Posted by sweevo

Special pleading fallacy on God's behalf.

Just a comment for the sake of argument.

[ardeegee]

Originally Posted by darknessangel

That's the catch 22. Morality does by default not apply to a god!

Exactly-- there are two possibilities for the rules from God:

1.) He could have chose other rules, therefore his morals are simply his own rules-- back to "might makes right"

2.) He could not have chose other rules, therefore there is something above God stopping him from doing so, therefore God is not omnipotent.

[sweevo]

Originally Posted by terrazoids

Dont you think thats a silly idea?

Yes, I do. Are you saying the god you believe in does not love the people he hates?

[terrazoids]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

I guess my branch broke



I would REALLY like to see some legit information backing up that statement. and by legit, I don't mean a link to some religious website that is focused on stirring folks up about other religions.

first of all, do you even realize that this ummm "path" you are so vehemently defending is a copycat religion? every major "myth" supporting both christianity and even judaism have firm roots in much older and actually longer lived religions.

here's some suggested reading for you.... start out with the "Epic of Gilgamesh", then pick up something on Zoroaster, then try some heavy duty reading about the religions of ancient Egypt, not just the stuff you learned in 6th grade when they taught about the pyramids.

most cultures have flood myths, dying and reborn king myths, virgin birth myths and pretty much everything else the modern christian bible is based on.

you are lecturing these fine folks about having closed minds, I dare you to do some reading outside of your comfort zone

Theres no such thing as a copycat religion. Really....

[darknessangel]

Originally Posted by terrazoids

Theres no such thing as a copycat religion. Really....

Because WE decide to ignore historical facts proven by archeology! *hugs terrazoids*

[sweevo]

http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Bough-J.../dp/0684826305

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by terrazoids

Theres no such thing as a copycat religion. Really....

ok then a serious plagarism problem exists in the history of the modern judeo/christian religions

[terrazoids]

Originally Posted by TGS

If I give you some karma will you go and play somewhere else?

I'm sorry, I really didn't mean to stir up a storm. I guess the topic does that by itself. I just responded to what I read on this thread, I guess kind of emotionally. Since then I've being attacked on all sides. I do believe that people should stand up for what they believe in.

[Elfwreck]

Originally Posted by terrazoids

Theres no such thing as a copycat religion. Really....

I suppose not, not really. Unless maybe the original religion had certain membership requirements that the "copy" religion decided to forego, but still followed the same doctrines & held the same kind of religious services.

Grabbing someone else's myths and putting a new spin on them doesn't make for a copycat religion; it makes for a different religion that built on existing folklore & history. Maybe "spinoff religion" is a better term?

[terrazoids]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

ok then a serious plagarism problem exists in the history of the modern judeo/christian religions

Its not plagiarism. We're actually talking about history and the lessons to be learned from it. History compounds, and so does religion. To focus on this is off the point though. The best a person can do in the first instance is to focus on God and what He means to our lives.

[darknessangel]

Originally Posted by terrazoids

I'm sorry, I really didn't mean to stir up a storm. I guess the topic does that by itself. I just responded to what I read on this thread, I guess kind of emotionally. Since then I've being attacked on all sides. I do believe that people should stand up for what they believe in.

And we believe that grownups that have imaginary invisible friends are crazy.

[Elfwreck]

Originally Posted by terrazoids

Its not plagiarism. We're actually talking about history and the lessons to be learned from it. History compounds, and so does religion. To focus on this is off the point though. The best a person can do in the first instance is to focus on God and what He means to our lives.

Why should anyone believe this? What evidence do you have that your interpretation of "the best a person can do" is the correct one?

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by terrazoids

Do you take your soul seriously, or is it a joke?

T'was a joke, I haven't really got a soul.

[Bilbo1967]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

ok then a serious plagarism problem exists in the history of the modern judeo/christian religions

Well, there's really not that many variations on the omnipotent, enigmatic deity myth, so I guess all these fairy stories tend to gravitate towards similar basic stories.