Just ordered the EXOPC Slate

[weateallthepies]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

Don't mean anything. Look at flash, work ok with windows, use it on mac, or linux, it get slower.

On that point I second apple, go for the standard ! Not the proprietary crap.

I don't know, I've played with a few html5 demos which seem to require 50% cpu usage to do very little. I'm not convinced it performs any better than flash. The flash game market won't be going anywhere soon.

There is nothing wrong with proprietary software, Apple are certainly happy to create it, they come across a little hypocritical when going on about standards.

I like choice, why not support both and let the consumer decide instead of flinging FUD around?

[weateallthepies]

Originally Posted by harryE123

Sure it's much easier on a laptop, hence the ipad dock and the convertibles that are coming out soon (i.e. making a laptop form factor of the ipad). But it sure isn't much easier typing on a netbook, so the comparison is unfair, you should be comparing the ipad with a netbook in terms of typing not a laptop, and the ipad as a lot of options for adding a proper keyboard, netbooks don't. Because it's much easier standing the ipad up and typing on an external than doing that on a netbook.

This has to be a wind up, or you just don't know what a netbook is.

[CyGuy]

This thread is about the ExoPC, not the many failings of the ipad. Can you guys go start another thread?

[Graham]

Originally Posted by CyGuy

This thread is about the ExoPC, not the many failings of the ipad. Can you guys go start another thread?

Sorry, CyGuy

You've got to admit, though, we've kept the thread going while we're waiting for you and Timezone to get your ExoPCs!

Graham

[weateallthepies]

Originally Posted by CyGuy

This thread is about the ExoPC, not the many failings of the ipad. Can you guys go start another thread?

Apologies, I kind of went with the flow and drifted off topic too.

I've been playing a little more with the exopc development stuff. Am tempted to have a go at creating something...maybe if I come up with something good they'll send me a free test unit.


...or I can just keep dreaming.

[CyGuy]

Originally Posted by weateallthepies

I've been playing a little more with the exopc development stuff.

I am also going to "develop" some apps for the ExoPC UI. In fact, I am going to convert my entire collection of portable apps into UI apps. I have probably 75 portable apps that are must have apps. All are open source and truly free.

[weateallthepies]

Originally Posted by CyGuy

I am also going to "develop" some apps for the ExoPC UI. In fact, I am going to convert my entire collection of portable apps into UI apps. I have probably 75 portable apps that are must have apps. All are open source and truly free.

Yeah it's a little more packaging than development but I've been meaning to play with multi touch for a while now so I have a few ideas I might work on which could then be packaged as exopc stuff.

[Crowl]

Originally Posted by timezone

With all that in mind and forgetting the Slate wars based on OS does the Slate push the eReader aside?

Kindle becoming a better option for me than epub with it working and wirelessly synching reading progress on my pc, blackberry and ipad has actually made more more likely to buy myself a k3 to replace my current sony.

[Crowl]

Originally Posted by Graham

The iPad is not 'dwarfing netbook and notebook' sales. Netbook growth in sales has been dropping throughout this year, which may be a result of the iPad release eating into that end of the market, or it may simply be that the netbook market has reached its peak and is now in decline, particularly as the low end of the laptop market has been reaching into the same territory.

Most of the growth of the netbook market will probably goto the tablet market for the simple fact that there is a limited need to upgrade netbooks unlike most computers because you aren't going to see big performance increases if you do.

If you look at the netbook market the upgrade market has been driven in a large part by the tendency of netbook makers to increase screensizes which is basically just a minor version of a form factor change and thus tablets are just the next change for most of those manufacturers.

[Crowl]

Originally Posted by Graham

By the way, I also think the iPad is a great device, just not for everything. There is a borrowed iPad right next to me at this very moment. I'm reading this forum and typing this from my laptop though, because I find it much easier.

I think the main decision people need to make are how many devices they want, if you are happy to have multiple devices then it is a lot easier to find the right ones for a particular job e.g. I much prefer books on my ereader to my ipad and comics/magazines are better on the ipad than my netbook.

If I was looking to reduce the amount of devices then I would definitely look at a win 7 tablet since it would cover the ipad and netbook roles pretty well, the question marks for me are performance and battery life as I am used to 10 hours from my netbook, work laptop and my ipad now.

[Jyster]

Has anyone looked at the Masterpad, it seems to have the same specs and size of the Exopc.

[HamsterRage]

I figure a dedicated ereader replaces several thousand other single purpose devices.

[Sweetpea]

Originally Posted by Crowl

I think the main decision people need to make are how many devices they want, if you are happy to have multiple devices then it is a lot easier to find the right ones for a particular job e.g. I much prefer books on my ereader to my ipad and comics/magazines are better on the ipad than my netbook.

If I was looking to reduce the amount of devices then I would definitely look at a win 7 tablet since it would cover the ipad and netbook roles pretty well, the question marks for me are performance and battery life as I am used to 10 hours from my netbook, work laptop and my ipad now.

If I were to look for a single purpose device, I'd go for a convertible laptop. But I want various devices...

[harryE123]

Originally Posted by weateallthepies

This has to be a wind up, or you just don't know what a netbook is.

It's neither; if you think typing on a miniscule keyboard of a netbook is better than the onscreen one (especially for non touch typists) or just an external full bluetooth one on the ipad there's not much I can say. I 've used an asus netbook for some time (it's gathering dust like the piece of junk it is in some unknown place in my house) and the typing experience was awful.

Originally Posted by weateallthepies

I don't know, I've played with a few html5 demos which seem to require 50% cpu usage to do very little. I'm not convinced it performs any better than flash.

You have to be the only person in the world to believe this. I guess you might know better than chrome, firefox and safari developers as well as all the open source community developers who think otherwise.

Originally Posted by Crowl

I think the main decision people need to make are how many devices they want, if you are happy to have multiple devices then it is a lot easier to find the right ones for a particular job e.g. I much prefer books on my ereader to my ipad and comics/magazines are better on the ipad than my netbook.

If I was looking to reduce the amount of devices then I would definitely look at a win 7 tablet since it would cover the ipad and netbook roles pretty well, the question marks for me are performance and battery life as I am used to 10 hours from my netbook, work laptop and my ipad now.

Yeah it would cover these uses except for it getting hot, for it being bulky, for it being heavy, for it running laptop cpus and requiring tons of ram instead of the cool, quiet arm cpus, except for the shoddy battery life, the inferior screen resolution, the inferior responsiveness, the most probably non ips screen, the viruses, trojans and malware, and the desktop paradigm that is not mean to be used by fingers. Yeah it would be a great product because one could run rubbish flash game on the net and legacy software that no one has bothered to port as one of the tens of hundreds of thousands of ipad apps, which even ms is developing for.

Sorry I really do not mean to be sarcastic, and you do make a very valid point, up until of course saying that the win 7 tablet would be that convergence device to fill most needs.

Originally Posted by CyGuy

This thread is about the ExoPC, not the many failings of the ipad. Can you guys go start another thread?

I like how you keep blindly perpetuating your ludicrous perceived failings of the ipad, which is even more laughable in that you 've opened a thread with nothing really to show so far than vaporware. If you do decide to open a thread about a product you will have to accept that people who like competing ones will pinpoint the failings of said product. That's what the forums are for. If you 'd like to write adulatory posts on some win 7 tablet, write them on a blog or something, this really isn't a place for free promo and banishing of opposing views.

And of course like others have said, you can hardly sustain interest with no actual product at hand...

[CyGuy]

Originally Posted by harryE123

It's neither; if you think typing on a miniscule keyboard of a netbook is better than the onscreen one (especially for non touch typists) or just an external full bluetooth one on the ipad there's not much I can say. I 've used an asus netbook for some time (it's gathering dust like the piece of junk it is in some unknown place in my house) and the typing experience was awful.

My Samsung has a 95% keyboard and is great to type on, no problems at all, only a slight learning curve. I also had an ASUS netbook, it was absolutely fantastic. It is still in use to this very day.

Originally Posted by harryE123

Sorry I really do not mean to be sarcastic, and you do make a very valid point, up until of course saying that the win 7 tablet would be that convergence device to fill most needs.

That is exactly what it will be, or a device similar to the ExoPC.

Originally Posted by harryE123

I like how you keep blindly perpetuating your ludicrous perceived failings of the ipad, which is even more laughable in that you 've opened a thread with nothing really to show so far than vaporware. If you do decide to open a thread about a product you will have to accept that people who like competing ones will pinpoint the failings of said product. That's what the forums are for. If you 'd like to write adulatory posts on some win 7 tablet, write them on a blog or something, this really isn't a place for free promo and banishing of opposing views.

My perceptions are irrelevant, the ipad is full of failings. I am not sure what you mean by "vaporware" really, the device ships in less than a month. As far as accepting criticism, aren't you the one criticizing "vaporware" as you put it? I really only have a problem with you attempting to point out supposed strengths of the ipad when in fact most are not. The many many weaknesses of the ipad are not present in the coming Windows 7 slates, it is just that simple. Do you think your words will alter reality in some way?