No Number Pad on K3 - Page 2

krazy4katz · 09-19-2010, 12:07 AM

I miss the number keys too! I know I can do the Alt + trick, but, as vega07 said, who wants to remember which key corresponds to which number? At least they could have printed the numbers above the top row of keys on the main body of the kindle!

Maybe that would have ruined the style, though. I will survive, I'm sure. It just seems silly, that's all.

k4k

JeremyR · 09-19-2010, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by krazy4katz

I miss the number keys too! I know I can do the Alt + trick, but, as vega07 said, who wants to remember which key corresponds to which number? At least they could have printed the numbers above the top row of keys on the main body of the kindle!

Well, the numbers are in sequential order. So it's not like you are guessing...

HarryT · 09-19-2010, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by vega07

I think using alt + is ridiculous without having the the numbers printed on the keys. How am I supposed to remember that U is 7!?!?!

I use numbers all the time and I think it was a mistake for Amazon to remove the num keys.

You don't have to "remember" that U=7; you simply count the keys starting with Q=1. The only skill required is the ability to count to 10.

gargoyle67 · 09-19-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

You don't have to "remember" that U=7; you simply count the keys starting with Q=1. The only skill required is the ability to count to 10.

Lol, I knew someone was going to say that, Although how hard would it be for Amazon to print a small number on the top of each key ? I mean if they can do it on small mobile phones how hard can it be, As you say though pretty easy to work out

TallMomof2 · 09-19-2010, 10:41 AM

I miss the number keys, too, but since I don't use them very often so it's a minor annoyance. The alt shortcut works fine for quick entry, I just have to take a second or two to figure out which key corresponds to which number. IMO, having the symbol menu stay open until you press the symbol key was an inspired bit of programming.

krazy4katz · 09-19-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

You don't have to "remember" that U=7; you simply count the keys starting with Q=1. The only skill required is the ability to count to 10.

I know, Harry, but I don't want to count. I just want to type. Counting takes time.

cl516 · 09-19-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by carld

You can enter numbers by pressing alt + the top row of letters, much easier than going through the SYM menu.

You are AWESOME, thanks for that!!

vega07 · 09-19-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

You don't have to "remember" that U=7; you simply count the keys starting with Q=1. The only skill required is the ability to count to 10.

LOL, no offense but I think that's horrifying response because simply, it's not user-friendly at all. Amazon needs to be more user-friendly if it wants to attract a wider audience for the Kindle and removing the number keys was a step backward.

scott h · 09-20-2010, 08:46 AM

Sure, I would love to have number buttons. Besides that, I would prefer to have the numbers above the keys to make it a bit quicker.

A minor thing for a great product that I'm guessing will be different when I buy my k4 or 5.

Maybe someone that knows how can make and sell stickers that would go above the keys to show the numbers. It could be a strip with a transparent background with light white numbers. I bet a lot of people would pay a few dollars for them.

gargoyle67 · 09-20-2010, 09:03 AM

I'd prefer to have them on the actual key, But that's just me.

ricsmania · 09-20-2010, 11:47 AM

I would prefer a number row, but I don't see the lack of it as a downside of the product. Many portable devices (i.e. cellphones) also don't have a number row.

I would like them to print the numbers on the top row keys though.

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Originally Posted by Coleccionista

I for once miss that "International Kindle" is still only available in English. So 1980!

Amazon is a US website. If someone buys from them, they sure know at least basic English. And also, most of the books are in English, so if you buy a Kindle you will probably do your reading in English also.

So I don't see the need to translate the software right now, because that would involve a lot more people, a lot more time to release updates, and it would probably add to the overall cost of the device.

I'm also an international user, and English isn't my native language. But I do prefer using good software in English than poorly translated versions, which is probably the case for around 95% of existing software, even for big companies like Microsoft and Oracle.

tomsem · 09-20-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gargoyle67

I'd prefer to have them on the actual key, But that's just me.

Perhaps the folks that make DecalGirl or GelaSkins Kindle 'skins' could be convinced to incorporate number labels into some of their designs, or create a small piece of transparent tape with number labels that you could stick on there.

Personally, I don't miss the convenience of separate number keys very much. Now the loss of the '/' key is another matter (needed for entering URLs for the browser).

JoshuaJSlone · 09-20-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by andavane

but if you want to key in several numbers, you have to keep pressing ALT.
Using SYM key once gives opportunity to enter several.

If we're counting button presses, the ALT way still wins. To type, say, 1982.

ALT method
ALT, Q, ALT, O, ALT, I, ALT, W
= 8 presses

SYM method
SYM, down, down, left, select, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, select, left, select, left, left, left, left, left, left, select, SYM
= 24 presses

HarryT · 09-20-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshuaJSlone

If we're counting button presses, the ALT way still wins. To type, say, 1982.

ALT method
ALT, Q, ALT, O, ALT, I, ALT, W
= 8 presses

Or just press and hold the ALT key and type Q, O, I, W. Even quicker.

andavane · 09-20-2010, 03:08 PM

Just Press SYM and click on the numbers you want.

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09-19-2010, 12:07 AM	#16
krazy4katz Addict Posts: 367 Karma: 1552656 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: [Kindle 1, Kindle 3 (KK)], Kindle Voyage, iPad Pro	I miss the number keys too! I know I can do the Alt + trick, but, as vega07 said, who wants to remember which key corresponds to which number? At least they could have printed the numbers above the top row of keys on the main body of the kindle! Maybe that would have ruined the style, though. I will survive, I'm sure. It just seems silly, that's all. k4k

09-19-2010, 10:41 AM	#20
TallMomof2 Kindlephilia Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count	I miss the number keys, too, but since I don't use them very often so it's a minor annoyance. The alt shortcut works fine for quick entry, I just have to take a second or two to figure out which key corresponds to which number. IMO, having the symbol menu stay open until you press the symbol key was an inspired bit of programming.

09-20-2010, 08:46 AM	#24
scott h Member Posts: 10 Karma: 12 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: kindle 3	Sure, I would love to have number buttons. Besides that, I would prefer to have the numbers above the keys to make it a bit quicker. A minor thing for a great product that I'm guessing will be different when I buy my k4 or 5. Maybe someone that knows how can make and sell stickers that would go above the keys to show the numbers. It could be a strip with a transparent background with light white numbers. I bet a lot of people would pay a few dollars for them.

09-20-2010, 09:03 AM	#25
gargoyle67 Addict Posts: 231 Karma: 180249 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Kobo Aura	I'd prefer to have them on the actual key, But that's just me.

09-20-2010, 03:08 PM	#30
andavane Zealot Posts: 120 Karma: 20 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Device: Kindle Keyboard, + Wifi, Kindle Paperwhite, Kobo Mini, Sony PRS-T2	Just Press SYM and click on the numbers you want.