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Old 09-17-2010, 01:05 PM   #22216
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They're still trying to reinvent themselves; if I was a betting man I'd say watch for a takeover/buyout of Novell within the next 12 months.
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I concur. I'm actually surprised it hasn't already occurred.
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http://techrights.org/2010/09/17/end-of-novell/


...a collection of links (including Reuters and the WSJ) concerning Novell getting new parents, and none of them are MS.

Maybe, rather than working in IT, I should just make money speculating on it. I still have time to get an MBA...
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Old 09-17-2010, 01:06 PM   #22217
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Old 09-17-2010, 01:17 PM   #22218
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http://techrights.org/2010/09/17/end-of-novell/


...a collection of links (including Reuters and the WSJ) concerning Novell getting new parents, and none of them are MS.

Maybe, rather than working in IT, I should just make money speculating on it. I still have time to get an MBA...
Hmmm. That's right: Novell owns SUSE.

I can see why VMware might be interested in acquiring it. Virtualization is a hot topic now, since you can reduce electrical and A/C costs and make better use of existing servers using it. Linux instances are a favorite thing to virtualize, and I can see VMware offering a version of VMware ESX server with pre-built SUSE images. VMware is trying to leverage its "first to market" advantage to stay ahead of competitors like Xen, and this is a way to do it.

The rest of Novell is thornier. There are doubtless still folks using Netware, but it's at best a legacy product. There are still folks using Groupwise, and may be an opportunity for someone.

I never could see MS buying it. What does Novell have that MS needs or wants?

I'll be watching with interest.
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Old 09-17-2010, 01:40 PM   #22219
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:31 PM   #22222
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:33 PM   #22223
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D.C. Rallies on Oct. 30, 2010.

Here's what I'm doing right now: thinking about attending one of the rallies in Washington D.C. on October the 30th. The problem is I can't make up my mind which to attend; the "Rally To Restore Sanity" or the "March To Keep Fear Alive." I mean, it seems obvious that things have got to the point where they're out of hand, and a call to reason seems, well, reasonable. On the other hand, fear is such a useful tool for motivating people. Hmmm... tough decision.

Perhaps some of you good folks could watch the two short videos at this link and help me decide.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_720588.html

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Old 09-17-2010, 02:42 PM   #22224
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Here's what I'm doing right now: thinking about attending one of the rallies in Washington D.C. on October the 30th. The problem is I can't make up my mind which to attend; the "Rally To Restore Sanity" or the "March To Keep Fear Alive." I mean, it seems obvious that things have got to the point where they're out of hand, and a call to reason seems, well, reasonable. On the other hand, fear is such a useful tool for motivating people. Hmmm... tough decision.

Perhaps some of you good folks could watch the two short videos at this link and help me decide.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_720588.html



My coworker here today was telling me about this and had me rolling already....now you brought it up and I just spit diet caffeine pepsi all over my monitor!
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My coworker here today was telling me about this and had me rolling already....now you brought it up and I just spit diet caffeine pepsi all over my monitor!
Well now I'm really upset that we can't see those videos here in the UK.
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Hmmm. That's right: Novell owns SUSE.

I can see why VMware might be interested in acquiring it. Virtualization is a hot topic now, since you can reduce electrical and A/C costs and make better use of existing servers using it. Linux instances are a favorite thing to virtualize, and I can see VMware offering a version of VMware ESX server with pre-built SUSE images. VMware is trying to leverage its "first to market" advantage to stay ahead of competitors like Xen, and this is a way to do it.
Or in the opposite direction, leverage SuSE as the basis for the hypervisor; ESX 3.0/3.5 were based on a modified 2.4 Linux kernel. Already, VMware Workstation supports both NetWare and SLES out of the box.
In addition VMware might find competition in the form of Oracle; they have Sun which means they now have VirtualBox, easily the closest competitor on the desktop.

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Easy: Less competition. Most recent desktop converts get glassy-eyed at the prospect of distro-hopping and tend (in my experience) to give up and go back to Windows. One less server running SLES is one more potential repeat Win2k8 customer. Also, fewer resources required for NetWare compatibility; after all if Novell isn't around to support it, why should MS?
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