should I or shouldnt I?

Loopy65 · 10-29-2007, 09:50 AM

Firstly could someone confirm what I think i know already (!) that as I'm on a Macbook the Cybook will appear as an added drive just as with my irex?

I took the plunge in August for the iRex iLiad reader and have thoroughly enjoyed using it. The big downside is though the battery life, when I'm reading a lot (which I do quite often) then I need to charge it up daily. I also use none of the 'extra' things that the iRex does so I'm considering getting the Cybook instead.

The Cybook is noticeably cheaper (largely as it doesnt have the iRex's bells and whistles) but it is still more than I 'should' be spending! (hubby would definitely agree! lol)

Wondering if anyone knows of a place to sell e-readers? .. if i can sell my iRex I can get a Cybook.

Thanks!
Loopy

JSWolf · 10-29-2007, 09:54 AM

You could try the Flea Market here to put up an advert for your iLiad.

Robert1325 · 10-29-2007, 10:00 AM

ebay works ok

HarryT · 10-29-2007, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loopy65

Firstly could someone confirm what I think i know already (!) that as I'm on a Macbook the Cybook will appear as an added drive just as with my irex?

That's correct, yes.

Loopy65 · 10-29-2007, 11:32 AM

thanks all .. will check out the flea market and then if no joy will pop onto ebay ..
thanks Harry also for the info about getting content onto it ..

the Cybook certainly looks awesome!

Loopy

Egghead · 10-30-2007, 03:25 PM

Until eReader pdb files are supported, there's no compelling reason for a Mac user to buy a Cybook. It's just as crippled as a Sony.

tompe · 10-30-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Egghead

Until eReader pdb files are supported, there's no compelling reason for a Mac user to buy a Cybook. It's just as crippled as a Sony.

I do not understand this comment. So for a Linux user there is no compelling reason to buy a Cybook either then?

The fact that the Cybook supports a lot of formats natively and the companys stated policy in this respect was one important reason for me to but a Cybook.

NatCh · 10-30-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Egghead

Until eReader pdb files are supported, there's no compelling reason for a Mac user to buy a Cybook. It's just as crippled as a Sony.

Doesn't that rather assume that MacUsers only read e-books in eReader .PDB format?

I suspect that MacUser who aren't heavily invested in eReader .PDB books might find any number of reasons to buy a Cybook.

But I'm not a MacUser, and I don't read in eReader .PDB format (not since I got my Sony Reader, anyway.

).

RWood · 10-30-2007, 04:21 PM

Last time I checked there were a lot of files available in HTML that as I remember a Mac like the Cybook can also read. Plus the Cybook like the iRex can read Mobipocket files. As almost all of the recent files posted for download at MobileRead are in Mobipocket (in addition to LRF for the Sony) there is a wealth of available reading material for the Cybook. Many throughout the world have, like Harry, settled on Mobipocket as their standard for ebooks. (I even use it on my Palm powered cell phone even though I have a Sony Reader.)

Egghead · 10-30-2007, 04:28 PM

It presupposes that someone would want to read a DRM'd book.

There are 4 formats that Cybook supports:
txt - not DRM'd.
html - not DRM'd
pdb - either not DRM'd, or DRM'd in eReader format, which is not supported.
prc - DRM'd, requiring Mobipocket software, which is Windows-only.

Why does the epublishing industry want to prevent me from putting the titles I've purchased onto a portable device? I'd like to be a good citizen, but this behavior on the part of the industry encourages piracy.

DaleDe · 10-30-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RWood

Last time I checked there were a lot of files available in HTML that as I remember a Mac like the Cybook can also read. Plus the Cybook like the iRex can read Mobipocket files. As almost all of the recent files posted for download at MobileRead are in Mobipocket (in addition to LRF for the Sony) there is a wealth of available reading material for the Cybook. Many throughout the world have, like Harry, settled on Mobipocket as their standard for ebooks. (I even use it on my Palm powered cell phone even though I have a Sony Reader.)

Unfortunately MobiPocket does not support a MAC. It is one of the few OS's that are not supported but they should be able to easily do it if they really wanted to. EReader is one of the few eBook formats that does mac so to share books between the two platforms you have to limit the choices.

Dale

NatCh · 10-30-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Egghead

It presupposes that someone would want to read a DRM'd book.

Oh! Well why didn't you just say so? Now I understand what you're saying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Egghead

Why does the epublishing industry want to prevent me from putting the titles I've purchased onto a portable device? I'd like to be a good citizen, but this behavior on the part of the industry encourages piracy.

That's getting into the e-Babel issue, which is a huge can of worms.

I found myself wondering the other day when the music industry (not the same thing, but it's related due to DRM) shifted from just wanting to get anyone they could to hear music so that they would buy what they enjoyed, to wanting to make sure they get paid every time anyone heard any song, whether they liked it or not.

Somewhere along the line, that shift occurred, and it's only made things nasty and painful for all concerned.

DaleDe · 10-30-2007, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatCh

Oh! Well why didn't you just say so? Now I understand what you're saying.

That's getting into the e-Babel issue, which is a huge can of worms.

I found myself wondering the other day when the music industry (not the same thing, but it's related due to DRM) shifted from just wanting to get anyone they could to hear music so that they would buy what they enjoyed, to wanting to make sure they get paid every time anyone heard any song, whether they liked it or not.

Somewhere along the line, that shift occurred, and it's only made things nasty and painful for all concerned.

I agree. you can't even sing Happy Birthday these days since someone will try and get you to pay for the privilege.

Dale

Egghead · 10-30-2007, 04:45 PM

Good insight, NatCh, and I agree.

NatCh · 10-30-2007, 05:07 PM

Wish I had some idea of what use to make of the insight.

10-29-2007, 09:50 AM	#1
Loopy65 Groupie Posts: 172 Karma: 360 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wales, UK Device: Kindle 3; iPad & iPhone 4	should I or shouldnt I? Firstly could someone confirm what I think i know already (!) that as I'm on a Macbook the Cybook will appear as an added drive just as with my irex? I took the plunge in August for the iRex iLiad reader and have thoroughly enjoyed using it. The big downside is though the battery life, when I'm reading a lot (which I do quite often) then I need to charge it up daily. I also use none of the 'extra' things that the iRex does so I'm considering getting the Cybook instead. The Cybook is noticeably cheaper (largely as it doesnt have the iRex's bells and whistles) but it is still more than I 'should' be spending! (hubby would definitely agree! lol) Wondering if anyone knows of a place to sell e-readers? .. if i can sell my iRex I can get a Cybook. Thanks! Loopy

10-29-2007, 11:32 AM	#5
Loopy65 Groupie Posts: 172 Karma: 360 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wales, UK Device: Kindle 3; iPad & iPhone 4	thanks :) thanks all .. will check out the flea market and then if no joy will pop onto ebay .. thanks Harry also for the info about getting content onto it .. the Cybook certainly looks awesome! Loopy

10-29-2007, 09:54 AM	#2
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 78,986 Karma: 144284074 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	You could try the Flea Market here to put up an advert for your iLiad.

10-29-2007, 10:00 AM	#3
Robert1325 Enthusiast Posts: 25 Karma: 44 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Paper, Cybook g3	ebay works ok

10-30-2007, 03:25 PM	#6
Egghead Mentat Posts: 78 Karma: 77 Join Date: Jun 2006 Device: Bookeen Gen3 Cybook	Until eReader pdb files are supported, there's no compelling reason for a Mac user to buy a Cybook. It's just as crippled as a Sony.

10-30-2007, 04:21 PM	#9
RWood Technogeezer Posts: 7,233 Karma: 1601464 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Device: Sony PRS-500	Last time I checked there were a lot of files available in HTML that as I remember a Mac like the Cybook can also read. Plus the Cybook like the iRex can read Mobipocket files. As almost all of the recent files posted for download at MobileRead are in Mobipocket (in addition to LRF for the Sony) there is a wealth of available reading material for the Cybook. Many throughout the world have, like Harry, settled on Mobipocket as their standard for ebooks. (I even use it on my Palm powered cell phone even though I have a Sony Reader.)

10-30-2007, 04:28 PM	#10
Egghead Mentat Posts: 78 Karma: 77 Join Date: Jun 2006 Device: Bookeen Gen3 Cybook	It presupposes that someone would want to read a DRM'd book. There are 4 formats that Cybook supports: txt - not DRM'd. html - not DRM'd pdb - either not DRM'd, or DRM'd in eReader format, which is not supported. prc - DRM'd, requiring Mobipocket software, which is Windows-only. Why does the epublishing industry want to prevent me from putting the titles I've purchased onto a portable device? I'd like to be a good citizen, but this behavior on the part of the industry encourages piracy.

10-30-2007, 04:45 PM	#14
Egghead Mentat Posts: 78 Karma: 77 Join Date: Jun 2006 Device: Bookeen Gen3 Cybook	Good insight, NatCh, and I agree.

10-30-2007, 05:07 PM	#15
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Wish I had some idea of what use to make of the insight.