Philosophical and Moral Question of the day

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by nohmi2

Surely the families of those who died on that dreadful day are entitled to disclosure. The families of the firemen who went even beyond bravery, climbing those steps and knowing that they may not make it down. No matter what you believe, it's completely irrelevant to what they may believe. Let them have peace of mind knowing that every avenue was followed, because there might be some doubt.

KK Nice picture.....recent?

Disclosure? What may I ask do you think is not being disclosed?

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

I think that the government should pursue the avenue that the attacks were masterminded by Al-Katie-- the rotund, jovial weatherman and his pixie-like co-conspirator engineered their careers on The Today Show purely as a means to have intimate access to Manhattan.

What? It is 100% as likely as your theory!

I might vote for that .... are you giving out iPads? or free Sony Readers?

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by nohmi2

Surely the families of those who died on that dreadful day are entitled to disclosure. The families of the firemen who went even beyond bravery, climbing those steps and knowing that they may not make it down. No matter what you believe, it's completely irrelevant to what they may believe. Let them have peace of mind knowing that every avenue was followed, because there might be some doubt.

KK Nice picture.....recent?

this kind of mentality only gets in the way of the TRUTH. the US had absolutely NOTHING to do with these attacks. even hinting at such a possibility does nothing but bring pain once again to these families.

the picture is a training I have done. that particular one is not me. I have a few other chopper based trainings pics I will eventually post

[nohmi2]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

this kind of mentality only gets in the way of the TRUTH. the US had absolutely NOTHING to do with these attacks. even hinting at such a possibility does nothing but bring pain once again to these families.

the picture is a training I have done. that particular one is not me. I have a few other chopper based trainings pics I will eventually post

It would appear that there are others who have more enquiring minds.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20100907/pl_usnw/DC60870 WTC

http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/

http://www.militaryofficersfor911truth.org/

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/10/us...er=rss&emc=rss

You will notice that this is all recent news, and I am quite sure that you will post a lot more pictures.

KK. I admire and respect what your work is, and how dedicated you are to it.
Have you spoken to each and every member of the families who lost loved ones? Every year on 9/11 they will grieve. One way or the other let them know WHY?

Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.
Albert Einstein.

[kennyc]

Just noticed this (on sale) at the Sony Store:

Let's Roll!: Ordinary People, Extraordinary Courage
by Lisa Beamer and Ken Abraham

$9.64

As well as several other 9/11 oriented books.

[Fat Abe]

KK, I never realized you might be a Spook, or SPOOKK. Guess I'll have to go deep underground, i.e., Leave the Matrix. Didn't you have some wild ideas about the JFK assassination?

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Paranoia is contagious.

[ardeegee]

Originally Posted by nohmi2

KK. I admire and respect what your work is, and how dedicated you are to it.
Have you spoken to each and every member of the families who lost loved ones? Every year on 9/11 they will grieve. One way or the other let them know WHY?

We f***ing know why. We know exactly who did it, where they trained, who trained them. It doesn't f***ing matter if some of the family members are conspiracy theorists-- it is entirely possible to be both a victim and a nitwit.

Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.
Albert Einstein.

"But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown."
Carl Sagan

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by nohmi2

It would appear that there are others who have more enquiring minds.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20100907/pl_usnw/DC60870 WTC

http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/

http://www.militaryofficersfor911truth.org/

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/10/us...er=rss&emc=rss

You will notice that this is all recent news, and I am quite sure that you will post a lot more pictures.

KK. I admire and respect what your work is, and how dedicated you are to it.
Have you spoken to each and every member of the families who lost loved ones? Every year on 9/11 they will grieve. One way or the other let them know WHY?

Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.
Albert Einstein.

I quickly looked at your links and to be honest, I haven't time for the conspiracy crap. I'm actually more familiar than I care to be with the the last entry the book, and can and will not talk about it at this point.

it is completely ludicrous that you should even ask if I have spoken with every family member from this tragedy. you don't even LIVE in this country let alone have a clue about the military establishment here. kindly shut the frak up until you can step up to the plate.

Originally Posted by Fat Abe

KK, I never realized you might be a Spook, or SPOOKK. Guess I'll have to go deep underground, i.e., Leave the Matrix. Didn't you have some wild ideas about the JFK assassination?

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Paranoia is contagious.

I've never said a thing about JFK other than possibly a poorly worded joke. I have absolutely NO theories about it.

I had an *interesting* job in the military. my best friend (who happened to be IN the Pentagon during that "landing") had a job that I can and will not discuss at the time, and he has managed to move further up THAT food chain.

my son, the ex SEAL who WAS working for the FBI was just rather urgently "recruited" for another rather interesting position. infer what you like.

keep your god damn conspiracy theories to the websites that like to suck the blood out of people who live in fear

[nohmi2]

Originally Posted by Acousticvillage

Just reflecting on the latest developments re a certain Pastor and a certain Holy Book.

I am a big scaredy cat and won't be there in person on the day. However, I have an e-book version of the Koran and am planning to delete it!!

Does this count?

This poster also made a joke and was attacked, unfairly I might add.

*Yawn*

Goodbye.

[ardeegee]

Originally Posted by nohmi2

This poster also made a joke and was attacked, unfairly I might add.

*Yawn*

Goodbye.

Sure, it was a joke-- just like a "pollack" joke or a "n****r" joke is a joke. It was a "joke" about supporting "in spirt" book burners! Some of the lowest knuckle-dragging, slack-jawed, anti-intellectual scum that inbred hillbilly society can produce.

[Sparrow]

I think any lighthearted remarks about sensitive topics are likely to generate heated responses.
I don't think they're justified in this case; but I'm not surprised to see them.

[ardeegee]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

I don't think they're justified in this case; but I'm not surprised to see them.

You are judged by the company you keep. If you choose to associate yourself with book burners (OP rephrased: "I'm afraid to join the book burners, so I'm doing this to show my symbolic support for them") then-- guess what?-- you are gonna be associated with book burners. Which book is being burned is a red herring. These are book burners. Anyone with any love and respect for learning and for books should feel a guttural utter contempt for book burners. I don't say "since I didn't get to gas any Jews, will it be okay if I fart on a copy of Night? Hahaha!"

(Yes, I went there. I Godwined.)

[devilsadvocate]

Originally Posted by happy_terd

He accomplished the statement he wanted to make though. He shook sh*t up like crazy.

Them religious nuts got their panties ruffled.

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$50 bonus question:

Would any of us know this pastor's name (or that he even existed) if he hadn't threatened to burn a Koran?

Mission accomplished.

L. Ron Hubbard once said, "You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion." Having read from both the Koran and the Bible, I wonder if religion and science-fiction (or what passed for it before Jules Verne came along) are not one and the same. They each contradict themselves (and each other) by the way, so I'm not sure reading the Koran will answer many questions for the unenlightened.

In any event, religion was developed as a form of crowd control back when the Earth was flat and we could barely start a fire to keep from freezing. It still persists today because many people feel they're not in control of their lives/destinies. Education in the U.S. has taken a major turn southward over the last 20 years and simultaneously we have Creationism museums popping up, the lawsuit-trolls from Westboro Baptist Church, and this jackass in FL. I'm not saying there's a conspiracy behind it but it wouldn't take much to convince me it wasn't a coincidence.

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

You are judged by the company you keep. If you choose to associate yourself with book burners ...

I took it as a jocular remark.
Admittedly the humour might not be to everyone's taste - but jokes very rarely are.

[kennyc]

Is that a bible in your pocket or are you just happy to see me.